The Death Penalty

Nascar1966 · #1 08-18-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

totally against it...but not because i love people, or think its cruel etc. (quite the opposite actually, just like i think viscious animals w low possibility of rehabilitation should be put down I also think human predators should be disposed of) just simply because it is more expensive for taxpayers to kill someone than keep him/her alive in prison for life. I dont need the govt wasting any more of my money than possible.

Don't you think the government is wasting money on all the thugs who were sentenced to life in prison when they might deserve the death penalty?

paisjpq · #2 08-18-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Don't you think the government is wasting money on all the thugs who were sentenced to life in prison when they might deserve the death penalty?

cost to house an inmate for life is less than cost of current rights for capital convictions to court appeals. if you want to make the us govt like the taliban and stone people without delay be my guest...but i dont see that working here.

miraja2 · #3 08-18-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

cost to house an inmate for life is less than cost of current rights for capital convictions to court appeals. if you want to make the us govt like the taliban and stone people without delay be my guest...but i dont see that working here.

Exactly.
And it is seems fine to some when people say stuff like "speed up the process" or "limit the appeals," but when you see the staggering number of people who have been convicted and sentenced to death row....only to be proven innocent later, that gets harder and harder (for a thinking person) to say. The appeals are there for a reason, and I firmly believe that as long as the death penalty exists, it is a good thing that the process takes as long as it does.

randallscott35 · #4 08-18-2010, 12:47 PM

I should have been more specific. I wasn't talking about all forms of rape. It will never happen, just something I believe in.

Antitrust32 · #5 08-18-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Exactly.
And it is seems fine to some when people say stuff like "speed up the process" or "limit the appeals," but when you see the staggering number of people who have been convicted and sentenced to death row....only to be proven innocent later, that gets harder and harder (for a thinking person) to say. The appeals are there for a reason, and I firmly believe that as long as the death penalty exists, it is a good thing that the process takes as long as it does.

while I agree with this somewhat, in the past 10 years or so DNA has become much more of an exact science. I lbelieve DNA proves way beyond any reasonable doubt, since two people never have the same DNA (maybe identicle twins do? I dunno). If DNA proves, speed up the process and save the

Remember back in OJ's trail that DNA seemed like nothing? Oh Ron Goldmans DNA was found in OJ's car! no big deal! he's not guilty!

Danzig · #6 08-18-2010, 12:42 PM

against it for all the reasons cited. the state shouldnt be in the killing business. have also read that a life sentence is cheaper. death sentences drag on for years so they avoid any chance of a mistake.

randallscott35 · #7 08-18-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

against it for all the reasons cited. the state shouldnt be in the killing business. have also read that a life sentence is cheaper. death sentences drag on for years so they avoid any chance of a mistake.

As I said before, the cost reason can be changed. I can be done more cheaply. Even lethal injection doesn't have to be used. Firing squad is far cheaper.

Danzig · #8 08-18-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

As I said before, the cost reason can be changed. I can be done more cheaply. Even lethal injection doesn't have to be used. Firing squad is far cheaper.

expense is the minor reason. and the expense is caused by years of appeals, since as i said previously, everyone wants to make sure no mistakes are made. after all, once a life is taken, you can't say oops and give it back. but the main reason is what i said first, the state shouldn't be killing anyone while saying killing is wrong.
let them sit and rot the rest of their days. and as i've said in the past, you read a hellish story (like that 'mother' who strangled her two sons and then put them in the car and claimed they drowned) in s car. and think 'kill them'-but that's why we make our laws in calmer moments.

dellinger63 · #9 08-18-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

expense is the minor reason. and the expense is caused by years of appeals, since as i said previously, everyone wants to make sure no mistakes are made. after all, once a life is taken, you can't say oops and give it back. but the main reason is what i said first, the state shouldn't be killing anyone while saying killing is wrong.
let them sit and rot the rest of their days. and as i've said in the past, you read a hellish story (like that 'mother' who strangled her two sons and then put them in the car and claimed they drowned) in s car. and think 'kill them'-but that's why we make our laws in calmer moments.

This woman killed her three children to spite her husband. After 11 years she doesn't looked punished to me!

http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/inms.asp

sorry search Lemak

Danzig · #10 08-18-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

This woman killed her three children to spite her husband. After 11 years she doesn't looked punished to me!

http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/inms.asp

i'm talking about the one from just a couple days ago. i cannot imagine someone doing such a thing.
at any rate, you can always find people who didn't get the sentence they should have-that won't change my mind about whether we should have a death penalty. you can name sick bastards all you want-it doesn't matter.
but the lady a couple days ago-when the initial story came out, she claimed to have run off the road into a lake, and couldn't get her two boys out. i skimmed over the first couple lines of the article and told my husband she killed them. sure enough, she confessed. strangled them at home, and then put them in the car.

dellinger63 · #11 08-18-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm talking about the one from just a couple days ago. i cannot imagine someone doing such a thing.
at any rate, you can always find people who didn't get the sentence they should have-that won't change my mind about whether we should have a death penalty. you can name sick bastards all you want-it doesn't matter.
but the lady a couple days ago-when the initial story came out, she claimed to have run off the road into a lake, and couldn't get her two boys out. i skimmed over the first couple lines of the article and told my husband she killed them. sure enough, she confessed. strangled them at home, and then put them in the car.

Lemak was a NURSE and killed her kids admittedly beause she wanted to get back at her husband, a Dr. Doesn't get much worse than that and this woman is not being punished IMO

dellinger63 · #12 08-18-2010, 06:37 PM

This guy killed a husband wife and cut a fetus out of the wife to kill it.

http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/inms.asp

search Biro, David

dellinger63 · #13 08-18-2010, 06:40 PM

and finally this guy while doing a gang drive-by shot thru a window of a bar and hit a college-going waitress paralyzing her for life. WHILE HE WAS OUT ON BAIL he was insulted and murdered a gang rival in a grocery store and he will be out AGAIN in 10 years or less!!!!!

http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/inms.asp

Edwin Casiano