Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

[Nascar1966]

This should show everyone why this SOB is a worthless American and traitor. Impeach this worthless M Fer. Im sure in Nov 2012 the American public will again be mislead by all of his worthless talk and lies. I wonder if him and Rangel are related? I guess this imbecile forgot all about 9-11. I havent.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

This should show everyone why this SOB is a worthless American and traitor. Impeach this worthless M Fer. Im sure in Nov 2012 the American public will again be mislead by all of his worthless talk and lies. I wonder if him and Rangel are related? I guess this imbecile forgot all about 9-11. I havent.

While I don't agree with the President and many of his policies, plus the location where this group is looking to put their mosque. But, the last time I checked, it's still a free country. I'm not sure of the number of Muslims that are born in this country are, but they are well within their rights to want to bulid a mosque wherever they want.
Is it a poor choice of location and going to ruffle alot of feathers? Absolutely.

Like I said, I just don't understand why they want that location. It just seems like they are being very unsensitive to the situation by wanting to build in that area.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Like I said, I just don't understand why they want that location. It just seems like they are being very unsensitive to the situation by wanting to build in that area.

As insensitive as driving a $50k SUV and paying for your food with a subsidized food card? If you have a support system in place that knows how to subvert the process, then why would rubbing peoples' noses in it be above you?

[Danzig]

the freedom of religion in this country must apply to all, not just to religions the majority agrees with. i don't quite get why there's such an issue about where the mosque is located. yes, the terrorists were muslim-but they did what they did because they were terrorists, not because they were muslim. can't help but wonder how many victims of their attack were muslim-or are we all to assume they were all good christian folk? before ww2, hitler made the jews a target-convincing the populace that the jewish among them were an evil-are we attempting the same thing here? i certainly hope not.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the freedom of religion in this country must apply to all, not just to religions the majority agrees with. i don't quite get why there's such an issue about where the mosque is located. yes, the terrorists were muslim-but they did what they did because they were terrorists, not because they were muslim. can't help but wonder how many victims of their attack were muslim-or are we all to assume they were all good christian folk? before ww2, hitler made the jews a target-convincing the populace that the jewish among them were an evil-are we attempting the same thing here? i certainly hope not.

Would they have been terrorists if they weren't Muslim?

[Riot]

There has been a mosque 4 blocks from the World Trade Center since before the WTC was built.

What a sad time for America, to see the bigots and haters come out of the woodwork. Pathetic to see them trash the first amendment and still call themselves Americans.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Would they have been terrorists if they weren't Muslim?

sure, why not. i don't think the terrorists hate us because they are muslim. they hate who we are. after all, this country has a small muslim population. i think it has more to do with actions taken, allies we have, etc.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sure, why not. i don't think the terrorists hate us because they are muslim. they hate who we are. after all, this country has a small muslim population. i think it has more to do with actions taken, allies we have, etc.

I don't think so. I think radical Islamic teaching had a lot to do with it.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sure, why not. i don't think the terrorists hate us because they are muslim. they hate who we are. after all, this country has a small muslim population. i think it has more to do with actions taken, allies we have, etc.

They hate us because we support Isreal. that is the #1 reason. but the countries are so poor, dont have anything to offer, corrupt governments.. that they use the Muslim religion to recruit new members who are easily brainwashed.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

While I don't agree with the President and many of his policies, plus the location where this group is looking to put their mosque. But, the last time I checked, it's still a free country. I'm not sure of the number of Muslims that are born in this country are, but they are well within their rights to want to bulid a mosque wherever they want.
Is it a poor choice of location and going to ruffle alot of feathers? Absolutely.

Like I said, I just don't understand why they want that location. It just seems like they are being very unsensitive to the situation by wanting to build in that area.

If it gets built my hope is that something happens to the building. If that happens hopefully there will be no one in the mosque. Just like the moron is kissing Mexico's @ss, he will kiss the Muslims @ss'.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

If it gets built my hope is that something happens to the building. If that happens hopefully there will be no one in the mosque. Just like the moron is kissing Mexico's @ss, he will kiss the Muslims @ss'.

i find your comments on this to be disgusting. people who commit criminal acts should be treated as needed. those who happen to belong to the same religion as a criminal shouldn't be painted with the same brush.
i'm unsure of what religion tim mcveigh and his accomplice were, but i believe both were of a christian belief. if the church they belonged to wanted to build within two blocks of the murrah building, would you care? i doubt it.


we as a country cannot and should not change our behaviors based on the actions of some bad people. that would be so wrong, and so counter to what we are supposed to stand for.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i find your comments on this to be disgusting. people who commit criminal acts should be treated as needed. those who happen to belong to the same religion as a criminal shouldn't be painted with the same brush.
i'm unsure of what religion tim mcveigh and his accomplice were, but i believe both were of a christian belief. if the church they belonged to wanted to build within two blocks of the murrah building, would you care? i doubt it.


we as a country cannot and should not change our behaviors based on the actions of some bad people. that would be so wrong, and so counter to what we are supposed to stand for.

He has a good point, I don't think that any churches should be able to built right near where Dr. George Tiller was murdered by a Christian.....oh, wait, that happened in a church, nevermind.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i find your comments on this to be disgusting. people who commit criminal acts should be treated as needed. those who happen to belong to the same religion as a criminal shouldn't be painted with the same brush.
i'm unsure of what religion tim mcveigh and his accomplice were, but i believe both were of a christian belief. if the church they belonged to wanted to build within two blocks of the murrah building, would you care? i doubt it.


we as a country cannot and should not change our behaviors based on the actions of some bad people. that would be so wrong, and so counter to what we are supposed to stand for.

btw
he had help from Muslims

[AeWingnut]

we're not the problem. If the City can stop an adult book store from opening in a given location they can tell a cult they can't build 2 blocks from ground zero.

ah see a growin pattern hea

[Riot]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

we're not the problem. If the City can stop an adult book store from opening in a given location they can tell a cult they can't build 2 blocks from ground zero.

Cult? No more a cult - and a sometimes violent, "hate towards others" cult - than Christianity is.

Americans who are Muslim have been an integral part of that neighborhood well before WTC was built. Other Americans are trying to prevent their freedom to continue living their lives there. That's not gonna happen in this country. Thank god.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

btw
he had help from Muslims

so, therefore all are bad. how utterly ridiculous.
good people do not change how they behave because of the actions of a few others. if you do that, you are reducing yourself. is this what we want? we are suddenly to turn our backs because of the actions of a few radicals? innocent muslims lost their lives that day on 9/11. but i guess that doesn't matter, they were obviously terrorists as well, simply because they share osama bin ladens religion? i think that's bull.

[Danzig]

i read yesterday that muslims in this country are being cautious this year about their ramadan religious festivities, as part of their holiday could fall on 9/11. they're scaling back on their usual activities, or even putting part of their usual happenings on other days, to avoid any thoughts by others that they are being uncaring about 9/11. yep, sounds like a bunch of terrorists to me.

yep, did a search and here's a link:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religio...Top+Stories%29

Moghul said most New York Muslims likely won't celebrate the way they normally do, and noted that a significant number lost relatives when the World Trade Center was destroyed. Many imams in the city plan sermons on dealing with loss and grief.

"It's a very painful day for everyone," Moghul said.

However, he and other American Muslim leaders don't want to make so many changes that they appear to be giving in to those who reject any Muslim observance in the United States. Some critics have said Muslims should move the date of the eid.

"It's like being offended that 9/11 and Christmas fall on the same day," said Safaa Zarzour, secretary general of the Islamic Society of North America, an Indiana-based communal group with tens of thousands of members. "There is something unsettling about that."

Yvonne Maffei, 35, of Des Plaines, Ill., a Chicago suburb, said she and her husband plan to stick with their usual Eid al-Fitr plan. They will attend morning prayers at their local mosque, go out for brunch then visit friends during the day.

"I think most Americans understand the value and place of religious holidays in a person's life," said Maffei, editor of My Halal Kitchen, a blog with recipes that meet Islamic dietary laws. "For those who don't, I just hope they will take the time to try and understand not only why we are celebrating at this time, but also what we are celebrating, which is the end of the holy month of Ramadan, a blessed month of fasting and attaining closeness to Allah."

[timmgirvan]

I think its bull that 3000 people died on one day because "true believers" listened to a madman and committed a horrendous crime!...and continue to do various acts against innocents because of their twisted views.