40 Billionaires to Donate Half Their Money

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

so you solved your issue with the knee and insurance company and are still ?

I have already paid for my own knee, thanks, and yes, I am still suing the insurance company.

And you have never "subsidized" my insurance.

Really - good luck with your hallucinations.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have already paid for my own knee, thanks, and yes, I am still suing the insurance company.

And you have never "subsidized" my insurance.

Really - good luck with your hallucinations.

but w/Obama's new plan I will as you and many more have a pre-existing condition and I don't. Imagine the pigs smoking cigs and eating McMuffins at the local Mc.D's while I jog (bye.) Get it now?

[joeydb]

Where is Oprah's name? You'd think she would support this "Hopey Changey" bullcrap after how much she pushed for Obama, whom she called "The One"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Where is Oprah's name? You'd think she would support this "Hopey Changey" bullcrap after how much she pushed for Obama, whom she called "The One"

This has nothing to do with Obama.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

but w/Obama's new plan I will as you and many more have a pre-existing condition and I don't.

No, you won't. I'll still buy my own insurance. As will everyone else with insurance. You won't be buying it. You'll be contributing to the "pigs at McDonalds as you jog by" less than you do now, as they will be able to buy their own insurance and get off our dime.

Get it now? Maybe you should read the law.

And hope to hell you don't blow out a meniscus jogging and get a "pre-existing condition" yourself.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You'll be contributing to the "pigs at McDonalds as you jog by" less than you do now, as they will be able to buy their own insurance and get off our dime..

are you kidding me? These people now armed with Dr. letters saying they're unfit to work will file unemployment at the best and work comp/SSI/etc etc etc at the worse. You really don't have a clue about real the real world.

BTW this opens yet another window for HUGE potential fraud and abuse

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

are you kidding me? These people now armed with Dr. letters saying they're unfit to work will file unemployment at the best and work comp/SSI/etc etc etc at the worse. You really don't have a clue about real the real world.

BTW this opens yet another window for HUGE potential fraud and abuse

What the hell are you talking about?

Wait - please don't even try to explain.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

What the hell are you talking about?

Wait - please don't even try to explain.

I won't even try but what should an uninsured obese heart patient with no family history of such, who requires 100K plus a year in care just to keep alive not mention make well, pay per month in a premium?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I won't even try but what should an uninsured obese heart patient with no family history of such, who requires 100K plus a year in care just to keep alive not mention make well, pay per month in a premium?

I'll be very happy when that uninsured's expensive medical care becomes less my cost (currently 100%), and more his own; and when that person can afford and gets on regular heart meds (not half meds intermittantly so he can afford them), gets nutritional and weight control advice, and gets regular checkups - rather than just going to the ER in crisis situations. I predict the cost of that person's medical care will markedly decrease. As will my contribution, if any, to it.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

but w/Obama's new plan I will as you and many more have a pre-existing condition and I don't. Imagine the pigs smoking cigs and eating McMuffins at the local Mc.D's while I jog (bye.) Get it now?

This is what I don't understand about many people's objections to the health care plan that was passed. I think there are legitimate objections to the plan that passed, but this just isn't one of them.
Under the health care system that existed in the United States before the plan passed, people who had insurance paid for medical treatments for those who did not. I repeat....that is how it already was. If you (or others) don't like that....okay. But why act like the new health care bill invented that system or will implement it for the first time when you know it doesn't?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by miraja2

This is what I don't understand about many people's objections to the health care plan that was passed. I think there are legitimate objections to the plan that passed, but this just isn't one of them.
Under the health care system that existed in the United States before the plan passed, people who had insurance paid for medical treatments for those who did not. I repeat....that is how it already was. If you (or others) don't like that....okay. But why act like the new health care bill invented that system or will implement it for the first time when you know it doesn't?

Tomorrow morning go try and make an appointment and say you have no insurance or money. See how that goes. We need to save people in life or death situations with ER rooms no doubt IMO but otherwise plead your case or face your fate.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Tomorrow morning go try and make an appointment and say you have no insurance or money. See how that goes. We need to save people in life or death situations with ER rooms no doubt IMO but otherwise plead your case or face your fate.

How wonderful healthcare reform has changed that.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

How wonderful healthcare reform has changed that.

LOL -- yeah, we're all going to have "equal access". It will be equal access to nothing, unless you're one of the self-proclaimed "elites" who handed down this socialist mess with no intention of participating in it.

You didn't see Ted Kennedy waiting in line at the local clinic, and you won't see any other of his ilk doing it either. Socialism is for the people, not for the socialist.

America better wake up and repeal this as soon as is practical -- at the latest on January 20, 2013.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by joeydb

LOL -- yeah, we're all going to have "equal access". It will be equal access to nothing, unless you're one of the self-proclaimed "elites" who handed down this socialist mess with no intention of participating in it.

You didn't see Ted Kennedy waiting in line at the local clinic, and you won't see any other of his ilk doing it either. Socialism is for the people, not for the socialist.

America better wake up and repeal this as soon as is practical -- at the latest on January 20, 2013.

I think I saw Ted Kennedy in line at KFC last night!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

LOL -- yeah, we're all going to have "equal access". It will be equal access to nothing, unless you're one of the self-proclaimed "elites" who handed down this socialist mess with no intention of participating in it.

You didn't see Ted Kennedy waiting in line at the local clinic, and you won't see any other of his ilk doing it either. Socialism is for the people, not for the socialist.

America better wake up and repeal this as soon as is practical -- at the latest on January 20, 2013.

Or not:

The new health care law has significantly improved the prognosis for Medicare, extending the life of its trust fund by 12 years until 2029, and thereby delaying any need for dramatic changes in benefits or revenues, according to a new report.

The annual check-up from government actuaries overseeing the nation's two central safety-net programs also found that Social Security continues to be much less of a problem than Medicare, and will remain in strong financial shape at least through 2037.

"The financial outlook for the Medicare program is substantially improved as a result of the far-reaching changes in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act," concludes the Medicare report -- although the trustees warned that the improvements depend on the successful implementation of the law.