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"LaL is a piece of crap, what does it say about the rest of them" It couldn't have been any better- Monmouth got the best 3yo's out there. That's the problem. They are all terrible. That was a dreadful race.
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Phil he is not a piece of crap. He is very very good.
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No he isn't. He's mediocre at best. G3 winner in most years- he just happened to be in the right year. Hell, he isn't even in Pegram's own top 3.
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Time for another vacation.
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Phil I love you, but I totally disagree with you here. In 2 months we will be talking about 2yr old champion, Haskell, Travers, big prep and BC winner or runner up to QR. He is far from a POS. |
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Does that mean he's going to beat Zenyatta?
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Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!" |
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An excerpt from an article in the BloodHorse
"A year after Rachel Alexandra completed the Preakness/Haskell double en route to Horse of the Year honors, Lookin At Lucky has accomplished the same feat -- against a Haskell field many consider the deepest in the race's 43-year history." http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ookin-at-lucky |
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Just because people have watched horse racing and have been in the industry for a long, long time ... doesn't mean they have even the slightest idea what they're talking about when it comes to making competent judgments that involve a morsel of handicapping skill. |
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deep and good aren't necessarily the same thing. you had classic win/place horses in there, that's where they got the deep from. and yes, it's true, the race today drew a lot of the better horses this year compared to past haskells. doesn't mean it's a better crop tho. lookin at lucky won-someone had to. doesn't mean he's very, very good. or even very good. slow time, yet another slow time to add to all the other slow times this year. |
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He could. He needs to improve, but he could
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Lookin At Lucky Rachel Alexandra Big Brown Any Given Saturday Bluegrass Cat Roman Ruler Lion Heart Peace Rules War Emblem Point Given Dixie Union Menifee Coronado's Quest Touch Gold Skip Away Serena's Song Holy Bull Kissin Kris Technology Lost Mountain Restless Con King Glorious Forty Niner Bet Twice One word answer. LAST
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He's better than Restless Con. 2nd last.
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Seriously, just looking at the 4 you highlighted- Lookin at Lucky would get crushed by all of them.
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I didn't say he stacks up to the four in question but for you to say "one word answer, LAST" I'm pretty confident he's closer to those four than at least seven others on the list are to him. He is in the process of developing as all 3yo's are and once in a while it's refreshing to see a top 2yo continue on to a competitive season. Lost Mountain? Please |
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Lost Mountain won the race with a 107 Beyer and the next out Travers 1-2 finishers were second and third to him. It's not like his Haskell performance would have left him smoked by todays winner. Here's a 3-year-old who went 3-for-11 .... Captain Steve. ![]() He took on older horses in the Ky Cup, Goodwood, and Breeders Cup Classic - and beat every single one of them. The older Golden Missile was 2nd to him in the KY Cup with the Hollywood Gold Cup winner 3rd. Fellow 3yo Tiznow beat him in the Goodwood and fellow 3yo's Tiznow and Giant's Causeway beat him in the BC Classic. In fact, 3yo Albert The Great was 4th in that years Breeders Cup Classic after winning the JCGC with a 119 Beyer against olders in his prior start. If you go 30 horses deep ... that 3yo crop of 2000 crushes any I've seen since. It's tough to put together a great resume when the opposition you face doesn't suck. |
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What are LAL's best races? The Haskell? Where he beat a hard luck 2nd place finisher Trappe Shot who was coming off of a 2.5 length win over Nacho Friend in a 4 horse field. The 3rd place finisher First Dude is 1-for-9 and has one of the nicest resume's ever for a horse who still has his N1X allowance condition. Or maybe you prefer Lookin at Lucky's 102 Beyer Preakness win - where he beat such wonderful competition as First Dude (great resume for an N1X'er!) Jackson Bend (0-for-6 this year and 5th in the Pegasus most recently) Yawanna Twist was 4th beaten less than 2 lengths in the Preakness - and he's yet to win anything other than a NY Bred MSW and NY Bred N1X, both at 6fs on the Inner dirt at AQU. |
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I'll take a resume over a flash in the pan "two race top beyer number" horse anyday. |
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