Chief Douche Bag

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's like choosing between turd sandwich and douche bag. obama no doubt is smarter.
neither one has managed to do much of anything good for the country, so what does it matter anyway?

Well that's a different conversation. People are trying to conflate what they think about his policies and leadership with how smart he is, which is why every time someone in here earlier said "well, I'm not so sure he's smarter," they would back it up with "well, I'm not better off than I was 19 months ago" and "OIL SPILL!"

Neither of which have anything whatsoever to do with whether he's smart of not, which is completely why Coach is owning this thread, because he's apparently the only one who can keep the conversation straight.

Really though, if there's a soul out there who legitimately thinks that there is even the slightest chance that Dubya is smarter/more intelligent than Obama, they should get their head checked. Policies are one thing to disagree with, but the actual intelligence conversation should be pretty one and done.

And his leadership has been pisspoor since about 3 weeks into office, so I'm essentially sick of him too at this point.

I am extremely disappointed with his foreign policy. I was naively hoping he would bring our troops home and let Iraq and Afghanistan eat cake.

Americans can be conditioned to embrace peace. Shocking, I know.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I am extremely disappointed with his foreign policy. I was naively hoping he would bring our troops home and let Iraq and Afghanistan eat cake.

Americans can be conditioned to embrace peace. Shocking, I know.

I'm extremely disappointed in quite a bit, the least of which is what you're talking about. If he's going to compromise his chances of getting re-elected, I wish he'd at least have gotten a healthcare bill with some teeth passed, I hate the wars which up to this point have been no different than his predecessor, just today he moved to expand the government's ability to willy-nilly get information on people with nothing more than the stroke of a pen, and he's languishing behind on very simple campaign promises that I care about very much.

Basically, he sucks, but he's still not the anti-Christ, and he's still at least marginally better than what came before him.

As I mentioned somewhere (not sure if it was here), after the Shirley Sherrod clowncar extravaganza, he should be happy the election is not being held today -- because I'd go vote for local politicians and leave the President spot blank. I have no desire at all to go vote for someone who is only a sliver better than any generic Republican counterpart. If I wanted someone who was going to do all the things I didn't want them to do, I'd have voted for McCain in the first place.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well that's a different conversation. People are trying to conflate what they think about his policies and leadership with how smart he is, which is why every time someone in here earlier said "well, I'm not so sure he's smarter," they would back it up with "well, I'm not better off than I was 19 months ago" and "OIL SPILL!"

Neither of which have anything whatsoever to do with whether he's smart of not, which is completely why Coach is owning this thread, because he's apparently the only one who can keep the conversation straight.

Really though, if there's a soul out there who legitimately thinks that there is even the slightest chance that Dubya is smarter/more intelligent than Obama, they should get their head checked. Policies are one thing to disagree with, but the actual intelligence conversation should be pretty one and done.

And his leadership has been pisspoor since about 3 weeks into office, so I'm essentially sick of him too at this point.

If I'm making a bet on who has a higher IQ, I'll take Obama no doubt.

They still both suck as presidents, Obama to me is like G.W. Bush II, still as much in love with spending as the last guy, and both have no clue about what the fucl< they are doing.