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[gales0678]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Good lord, at least there is still SOME sanity left in the world.

While I disagree, I understand why some people would vote for a Republican against Obama next time around, though at this point I'm really starting to consider just voting for a small party and letting everyone else decide because I'm getting sick of him too. Two years after getting to know Palin, it scares the hell out of me that there is even ONE person in this country who would vote for her, let alone enough to elect her potentially.

Argue Obama's inexperience all you want, but at least he has SOME grasp of the issues. Sarah Palin has exhibited not one ounce of depth or understanding of complexities on even one single issue in two years in the public eye. And how that is not terrifying to people is absolutely beyond me.

then why did the stimulus make the unemployment rate go up when he said if it was passed would keep unemployment from going abve 8%

tell me what Palin did specifically to make Alaska worse off , what did she screw up up there , she had executive experience , obama had none

the american people are waking up to the fact that we have a person in the white house who has no experience ....obama is a smart guy , knows a lot of things , but if you don't think he is in over his head you're dead wrong. the media did a great job of this during the election peroid , the convinced the american people that obama would be a messiah and that palin would have no clue

he's had 18 months and tell me how we are better off today than we were 18 months ago , i don't see it anywhere

tell me what palin would have done that would have made us worse off today if she had been elected , she couldn't have been any worse than obama to this point

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by gales0678

then why did the stimulus make the unemployment rate go up when he said if it was passed would keep unemployment from going abve 8%

That doesn't make a lot of sense here Gales. The stimulus made unemployment go up???

Interesting.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That doesn't make a lot of sense here Gales. The stimulus made unemployment go up???

Interesting.

and this guy didn't even need Sighty's Magic 8-Ball

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487425,00.html

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by geeker2

and this guy didn't even need Sighty's Magic 8-Ball

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487425,00.html

And you can find a million economists who will say the stimulus lowers unemployment.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

And you can find a million economists who will say the stimulus lowers unemployment.

Yeah, but you said it "doesn't make a lot of sense " and what this guy pointed out was a logical possible senerio.

and I don't see unemployment lower.....

[Danzig]

i didn't necessarily agree with the stimulus, but i would be hard pressed to say it 'made' unemployment go up. unemployment did go up-would it have done so regardless, probably. would it have gone up higher without the stimulus-maybe. but to say it made the jobless rate go up-come on.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That doesn't make a lot of sense here Gales. The stimulus made unemployment go up???

Interesting.

well it did , they said if it got passed unemployment wouldn't go above 8% , after it went through we went straight up to 10% , guess it worked , just the opposite of what they thought

[dalakhani]

[quote=gales0678;671145]well it did , they said if it got passed unemployment wouldn't go above 8% , after it went through we went straight up to 10% , guess it worked , just the opposite of what they thought[/QUOT

surely you took logic classes in college. This would be a logical fallacy unless of course you can show how the stimulus caused unemployment to go up.

[gales0678]

[quote=dalakhani;671272]

Originally Posted by gales0678

well it did , they said if it got passed unemployment wouldn't go above 8% , after it went through we went straight up to 10% , guess it worked , just the opposite of what they thought[/QUOT

surely you took logic classes in college. This would be a logical fallacy unless of course you can show how the stimulus caused unemployment to go up.

it's really black and white , bush left office in jan , we were told in early feb that the stimulus had to get passed immediatly in order for unemployment to not go above 8% , it went to 10%+ after it was passed

no one will ever no what would have happened to unemployment if it didn't get passed

but in the real world not in your fantasy little world inside the beltway dala
it didn't work


if palin guaranteed something like this and it didn't happen the media would be killing her every day , obama and his team get a pass, but , they obviously have made things worse since Bush headed back to Texas

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by gales0678

no one will ever no what would have happened to unemployment if it didn't get passed

but in the real world not in your fantasy little world inside the beltway dala
it didn't work

Do you honestly not see that these two sentences directly contradict each other? You basically say that no one will ever know how well - or even if - it worked. Then you say, "it didn't work."

If you simply mean that it did not successfully keep unemployment below 10%, then you are obviously correct. Nobody would dispute that. That's like arguing the sky is blue.

But if you mean that it didn't succeed in keeping unemployment lower, well....as you said....you can't know that.

So....your argument here is either wrong by your own admission or so obvious that there is no point in even making it.

[Antitrust32]

how about the arguement that it was a waste of $1,000,000,000,000 of taxpayers dollars?

Is that similar to the sky is blue comment?


my lord a trillion dollars has a ton of zero's