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[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I dont disagree with your premise for the most part but you choose some examples that defeat your point. The Twins won the world series in 1991. When was the last time the Vikes won a championship? The Marlins, although being an existence for less than 20 years, have won two titles in that time. How many have the dolphins won in that time?

The Twins have been in the playoffs consistently over the last decade. How about the vikes? As you know, the dolphins have not been very good while the marlins occasionally field a strong team or at least strong enough to win two titles since 1997.

The competitive balance portion of what you say is true for the most part but is that really the big reason why baseball isnt the number 1 sport any longer as you imply in your post?

It is easier to share money in the NFL because there is much more money to share. TV dollars for baseball arent there and the competitive balance isnt going to make much difference.

no no no

chuck doesn't like the yankees , george , or yankee fans , he has a bias in theses matter if you don't already know

george was good for the game on whole , were the problems , yes , but the total package was a positive

[slotdirt]

The Marlins bought two championships and in both cases had to immediately auction off all assets in order to make payroll the next season. They've hardly been competitive otherwise.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

The Marlins bought two championships and in both cases had to immediately auction off all assets in order to make payroll the next season. They've hardly been competitive otherwise.

the atlanta braves made the playoffs more years in a row than the yankess, if that is not an example of how a mid market team can't compete you guys are hopless

the small teams have it tough , but that was the case long before george came into the picture

[slotdirt]

On what planet is Atlanta mid-market? Just curious.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

the atlanta braves made the playoffs more years in a row than the yankess, if that is not an example of how a mid market team can't compete you guys are hopless

the small teams have it tough , but that was the case long before george came into the picture

Atlanta is freaking HUGE. How could they be a mid market team?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Atlanta is freaking HUGE. How could they be a mid market team?

Yeah, but I don't think the owner had that much money?

[slotdirt]

Atlanta might have crappy pro sports fans (like NYC has crappy college sports fans), but it's the ninth biggest MSA and growing more and more every year. Not exatly mid-market. If that is the case, Boston is mid-market, as are Detroit, DC-Baltimore, and virtually every other metropolitan area that isn't New York, Chicago, or LA.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

the atlanta braves made the playoffs more years in a row than the yankess, if that is not an example of how a mid market team can't compete you guys are hopless

the small teams have it tough , but that was the case long before george came into the picture

They had a freakin superstation funding the team.

Let me explain it for you in simpler terms. If Scuds took over the Yankees and used his insane logic in putting a team together, they would still be competitive because they can just eat bad decisions. At least 1/2 of the teams in MLB would be crippled for years by one bad, Yankee-like contract.

The Red Sox are a lesser example but they too have the ability to pay way over market but they have usually not gone as far as NY, though the pitching signings they have made fairly recently are looking a little shaky (Dice K, Lackey, reupping Beckett).

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They had a freakin superstation funding the team.

Let me explain it for you in simpler terms. If Scuds took over the Yankees and used his insane logic in putting a team together, they would still be competitive because they can just eat bad decisions. At least 1/2 of the teams in MLB would be crippled for years by one bad, Yankee-like contract.

The Red Sox are a lesser example but they too have the ability to pay way over market but they have usually not gone as far as NY, though the pitching signings they have made fairly recently are looking a little shaky (Dice K, Lackey, reupping Beckett).

that was the case in the 20's and 30's , etc etc etc , it don't mean george made the game worse

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

no no no

chuck doesn't like the yankees , george , or yankee fans , he has a bias in theses matter if you don't already know

george was good for the game on whole , were the problems , yes , but the total package was a positive

What have I said that wasn't true?

Let me ask you a question. If George didn't buy the yankees do you think baseball would be in worse shape? Since I already know your answer, Why?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What have I said that wasn't true?

Let me ask you a question. If George didn't buy the yankees do you think baseball would be in worse shape? Since I already know your answer, Why?

yes , cbs would have continued on dragging the most valuable franchise in sports down for the next few years and the fact is like it or not when the yankees are on people watch baseball

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

yes , cbs would have continued on dragging the most valuable franchise in sports down for the next few years and the fact is like it or not when the yankees are on people watch baseball

You didnt answer the question. What if CBS sold to a different, less bombastic owner? Say they sold to John henry (the red sox owner not the horse)?

Yeah those Yankee/Royal and Yankee/Indian games are must see tv.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You didnt answer the question. What if CBS sold to a different, less bombastic owner? Say they sold to John henry (the red sox owner not the horse)?

Yeah those Yankee/Royal and Yankee/Indian games are must see tv.

when did the small teams have a chance over the yankees , dodgers etc etc in any given era of baseball ??? the orioles and red sox beat up on the yanks in the 60's and early 70's , that was it

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

when did the small teams have a chance over the yankees , dodgers etc etc in any given era of baseball ??? the orioles and red sox beat up on the yanks in the 60's and early 70's , that was it

There were no small market teams for much of that period.

[Cannon Shell]