When does the $1,000,000 a day start at MTH?

Kasept · #1 06-25-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...

Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.

pba1817 · #2 06-25-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.

Are these owners complaining?

Kasept · #3 06-25-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

Are these owners complaining?

I don't know. They may not complain until they get their statements because they may not realize that the winner's share is lower. It doesn't really matter with the inflated ALW's and MSW's because the increased purse should offset the lower percentage for the winner. But the mid-lower range purses aren't that inflated, and frankly, running versus 10-11 for 50% of $25k isn't that attractive versus running for 60% of say $18k versus 6-7.

My question had nothing to do with the handle portion of the MTH meet. The glaringingly small total purse forthe day caught my attention. I had thought they were giving away a minimum of $700k-$800k daily.

pba1817 · #4 06-25-2010, 01:32 PM

http://www.monmouthpark.com/News.aspx?id=2783

Gaining Ground · #5 06-25-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

http://www.monmouthpark.com/News.aspx?id=2783

from the article

Following opening weekend of May 22 and 23, live racing returns on May 29, May 30, and May 31 (Memorial Day). After the Memorial Day card, Monmouth will race on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays as well as Monday, July 5th (4th of July Holiday) and Monday, Sept. 6 (Labor Day). The $1 million per day in purses more than triples the $331,000 in average daily purses offered at Monmouth in 2009.

false advertising?

pba1817 · #6 06-25-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

from the article

Following opening weekend of May 22 and 23, live racing returns on May 29, May 30, and May 31 (Memorial Day). After the Memorial Day card, Monmouth will race on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays as well as Monday, July 5th (4th of July Holiday) and Monday, Sept. 6 (Labor Day). The $1 million per day in purses more than triples the $331,000 in average daily purses offered at Monmouth in 2009.

false advertising?

Read the first paragraph moron...

Gaining Ground · #7 06-25-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

Read the first paragraph moron...

moron? a little emotional about a nothing issue arent you?

i read the paragraph. seems like the million dollar a day is false advertising if most of the days arent 1 million. i understand its an average. but i still wonder if they will be anywhere near that when all is said and done.

TitanSooner · #8 06-25-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

from the article

Following opening weekend of May 22 and 23, live racing returns on May 29, May 30, and May 31 (Memorial Day). After the Memorial Day card, Monmouth will race on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays as well as Monday, July 5th (4th of July Holiday) and Monday, Sept. 6 (Labor Day). The $1 million per day in purses more than triples the $331,000 in average daily purses offered at Monmouth in 2009.

false advertising?

if, at the end of the meet, the average daily purses aren't a $1 Million, then yes it is false advertising.. won't know until then, though, will we?

robfla · #9 06-25-2010, 01:39 PM

By comparison, the top five racetracks, with average daily purse distribution in 2009, were:

1. Saratoga Racecourse (Saratoga Springs, N.Y.), 36 days, $729,100

2. Keeneland fall meet (Lexington, Ky), 17 days, $608,730

3. Keeneland spring meet (Lexington, Ky), 15 days, $601,950

4. Belmont Park fall meet (Elmont, N.Y.), 33 days, $556,545

5. Del Mar Racecourse (Del Mar, Cal.), 37 days, $544,295

Gaining Ground · #10 06-25-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

if, at the end of the meet, the average daily purses aren't a $1 Million, then yes it is false advertising.. won't know until then, though, will we?

yes, which was why i put the question mark.

at least you didnt call me a moron like your boyfriend.

Gaining Ground · #11 06-25-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

124 horses entered at Monmouth in 12 races...

68 horses entered at Belmont in 9 races...

enough said..

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Originally Posted by pba1817

As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...

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Originally Posted by pba1817

Are these owners complaining?

not a very convincing arguement you have presented. the topic has nothing to do with belmont.

robfla · #12 06-25-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.

As far as the part about watering down the winner's share, I am pretty sure the reason for the $1500 to all runners is a way of rewarding the local owners/trainers who are "out-stocked" by the super trainers shipping in. All things considered, I think it's a great idea.

Short-arming owners that win??? you are kidding, right? $70-$80k for maidens, NW1X, and NW2X isn't short arming anyone even if $9000 comes off the top to the also-rans

Kasept · #13 06-25-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla

Short-arming owners that win??? you are kidding, right? $70-$80k for maidens, NW1X, and NW2X isn't short arming anyone even if $9000 comes off the top to the also-rans

Addressed that above. It's not about the ALW/MSW races. It's the cheap races that are running today (only 2 ALW's) that caught my attention..

robfla · #14 06-25-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Addressed that above. It's not about the ALW/MSW races. It's the cheap races that are running today (only 2 ALW's) that caught my attention..

I totally agree about the lesser claiming races. They are MUCH tougher than elsewhere and horses usually have to drop to win.

pba1817 · #15 06-25-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla

I totally agree about the lesser claiming races. They are MUCH tougher than elsewhere and horses usually have to drop to win.

So... the $1,500 to run in these tougher claimers adds the incentive to enter? I would imagine this is why we still see over 10 entries per average on a "bad" day of races like today.

Seems to be working so far.