Crist: The great distaffers..

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

You backpedaled because you were the one who tried to goad people into comparing her with Personal Ensign.

A couple of us obliged you and responded.

Your reply:

The only thing I will say about Zenyatta right now is most are comparing her to Personal Ensign's record with her career incomplete

Look out.

Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.

Who backpedaled? you make it sound that if she goes on to win the BC and whatever races in between now and then, that it would be outrageous to compare her to Personal Ensign. I understand this whole thing of comparing one era to another is subjective. But why can't others have an opinion that she belongs with the alltime greats? Is it really that outrageous? Others who have infinitely more experience in the game than myself and probably even yourself believe so. Does that make them wrong?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by CSC

Who backpedaled? you make it sound that if she goes on to win the BC and whatever races in between now and then, that it would be outrageous to compare her to Personal Ensign. I understand this whole thing of comparing one era to another is subjective. But why can't others have an opinion that she belongs with the alltime greats? Is it really that outrageous? Others who have infinitely more experience in the game than myself and probably even yourself believe so. Does that make them wrong?

I think I made myself clear in what way you backpedaled. You wanted to compare Zenyatta and Personal Ensign earlier today ("it was a ploy") and now you don't.

To justify your backpedal you say that Zenyatta has yet to finish her career and therefore we should wait to compare her with Personal Ensign.

3 times since that post you have posted "what if" scenarios of her winning the 2010 BC Classic.

If you were as consistent as Zenyatta is we wouldn't need to keep going over this.

As for the "sanctity of the opinion" BS, if I thought your opinion should be erased I'd just become a moderator.

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I think I made myself clear in what way you backpedaled. You wanted to compare Zenyatta and Personal Ensign earlier today ("it was a ploy") and now you don't.

To justify your backpedal you say that Zenyatta has yet to finish her career and therefore we should wait to compare her with Personal Ensign.

3 times since that post you have posted "what if" scenarios of her winning the 2010 BC Classic.

If you were as consistent as Zenyatta is we wouldn't need to keep going over this.

As for the "sanctity of the opinion" BS, if I thought your opinion should be erased I'd just become a moderator.

In reality, I posted according to the Crist blog that she had raced only once out of N.Y, go back and look. That started the dialogue for obvious reasons since one of Zenyatta's criticisms is she doesn't ship often enough, all the rest of the stuff came from your imaginary mind. I also pointed out wouldn't it be fairer to judge Zenyatta as a whole after this year, a point you agreed with me. If that is a backpedal in your mind, I'm sorry I can't help you.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by CSC

In reality, I posted according to the Crist blog that she had raced only once out of N.Y, go back and look. That started the dialogue for obvious reasons since one of Zenyatta's criticisms is she doesn't ship often enough, all the rest of the stuff came from your imaginary mind. I also pointed out wouldn't it be fairer to judge Zenyatta as a whole after this year, a point you agreed with me. If that is a backpedal in your mind, I'm sorry I can't help you.

Here's the reality, one last time. You mistakenly said that Personal Ensign only raced once outside NY, not because Crist got it wrong, but because you couldn't understand his chart.

You were quickly corrected, then laughed it off and a reference to Lady's Secret because "Personal Ensign's name is linked to Zenyatta's". When someone asked why you would bring this comparison up at all, you replied "it was a ploy to draw you into a discussion".

Well, you got it. And apparently you had no answer, taking the ol' "pass" maneuver on your backwards moving unicycle.

Your above post is more of the same. However nothing beats your butt hurt reply to SO about Personal Ensign and blasphemy.

Maybe you can get one of those soft donut thingies so you can sit back on your unicycle and pedal outta this non-existent discussion once and for all.

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Maybe you can get one of those soft donut thingies so you can sit back on your unicycle and pedal outta this non-existent discussion once and for all.

It's too bad you cannot accept other people's opinions, if I or Davidowitz want to compare Personal Ensign to Zenyatta, in our opinion we can. Get over it. Who is to say your opinion is more correct than others.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by CSC

It's too bad you cannot accept other people's opinions, if I or Davidowitz want to compare Personal Ensign to Zenyatta, in our opinion we can. Get over it. Who is to say your opinion is more correct than others.

You're a dolt. I never said you couldn't give your opinion. You never gave one. You had no answer to my original post, remember?

Try to follow Smooth Operator's lead, at least he comes back with some rebuttal other than "she's not retired yet".

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

You're a dolt. I never said you couldn't give your opinion. You never gave one. You had no answer to my original post, remember?

Try to follow Smooth Operator's lead, at least he comes back with some rebuttal other than "she's not retired yet".

Personal Ensign's race record is one of progression, essentially each successive start tougher than the last. Considering the injury, an element of heroism prevails.

Zenyatta's race record is one of ennui, same old song and dance. A cloud of evasion hangs over it.

Maybe you are unable to read or maybe you just avoid what I have stated a number of times already, here is what you said above, I clearly have stated let's wait until Zenyatta's career is over before making claims her race record of 'ennui'. But if if you ask me where she belongs, Zenyatta in my opinion already belongs with the greatest females of the game and this includes Personal Ensign. But I do understand why some others need to see more, I can accept that, I don't need anymore confirmation but yes it would be nice if she can prove it on BC day once and for all to the remaining sceptics.