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Old 06-19-2010, 01:15 AM
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He had breathing issues.

Baffert maintained all along that he was cut out to be a router and that without the breathing issue, he'd have been an unstoppable force going long.
he was also huge and had trouble in the gate because he was so big. but you are right, he had serious breathing issues. you clearly have followed the sport for many years and have seen some good ones. was midnight lute one of, if not the best sprinters ever?
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:24 AM
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he was also huge and had trouble in the gate because he was so big. but you are right, he had serious breathing issues. you clearly have followed the sport for many years and have seen some good ones. was midnight lute one of, if not the best sprinters ever?
I think just on raw talent, your not NEARLY GIVING HIM ENOUGH CREDIT. As talented as anyone the last 10 years, not saying he is the best, but just as talented as anyone.
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:31 AM
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I think just on raw talent, your not NEARLY GIVING HIM ENOUGH CREDIT. As talented as anyone the last 10 years, not saying he is the best, but just as talented as anyone.
you went from maybe one of the best ever to as talented as anyone in the last 10 years. i can probably agree with that. its really hard to tell just how good he might have been. but based on what he did on the track, he doesnt belong on any all time lists.
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:34 AM
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I think Precisionist in the mile race, provided he was given free reign, would have fared well.

Does anyone remember those meetings between Precisionist and Greinton in 1985, from the Strub through those HP summer races.

Best six month rivalry evah!
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:10 AM
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I think Precisionist in the mile race, provided he was given free reign, would have fared well.

Does anyone remember those meetings between Precisionist and Greinton in 1985, from the Strub through those HP summer races.

Best six month rivalry evah!
It was too bad that Precisionist didn't fire in the following year's Big Cap when Greinton ran down the Franks/JVB longshot Herat. Precisionist did get his revenge a few weeks later in the San Bernadino.
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:04 AM
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you went from maybe one of the best ever to as talented as anyone in the last 10 years. i can probably agree with that. its really hard to tell just how good he might have been. but based on what he did on the track, he doesnt belong on any all time lists.
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Old 06-19-2010, 01:30 AM
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he was also huge and had trouble in the gate because he was so big. but you are right, he had serious breathing issues. you clearly have followed the sport for many years and have seen some good ones. was midnight lute one of, if not the best sprinters ever?
lol

don't get me wrong, i really like ML a lot and think on his day he was really tough, but beating a horse like Phone Trick? No.

I think he probably was the best sprinter on that list however. Maybe KG, maybe him.
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