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Old 06-14-2010, 05:04 PM
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I thought you were better than this, my toy is bigger than yours...Your handicapping method here is so simplistic it's silly, where did you get this from a 4 yr child?

oh, and it wasn't my 'handicapping method'. i know some pointed out that rachel ran her 9 faster than blame, so it seemed obvious that this time would come up as well, zens vs rail trip. may be a bit simplistic, but it's also a measurable fact.

oh, and by the way:

HOL-Californian S (G2): Rail Trip 108 (R. Ellis/R. Bejarano)

HOL_Vanity H (G1): Zenyatta 103 (J. Shirreffs/M. Smith)


but i'm sure that's being simplistic as well....
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:15 AM
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oh, and it wasn't my 'handicapping method'. i know some pointed out that rachel ran her 9 faster than blame, so it seemed obvious that this time would come up as well, zens vs rail trip. may be a bit simplistic, but it's also a measurable fact.

oh, and by the way:

HOL-Californian S (G2): Rail Trip 108 (R. Ellis/R. Bejarano)

HOL_Vanity H (G1): Zenyatta 103 (J. Shirreffs/M. Smith)


but i'm sure that's being simplistic as well....
All the figs say are they are in the same ballpark, on synth you have to view them with a much broader view. Zenyatta ran a 12.03 final 8th, where Rail Trip ran 12.87 carrying 11lbs less. On synth these are when races are usually won.

Regardless, I agree with Mike Smith's comments after the race, she may have needed this race and believe it or not she may move fwd from this race, in addition Moss was quoted as saying Delmar was not written in stone via Hovday. We will see.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:36 AM
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All the figs say are they are in the same ballpark, on synth you have to view them with a much broader view. Zenyatta ran a 12.03 final 8th, where Rail Trip ran 12.87 carrying 11lbs less. On synth these are when races are usually won.

Regardless, I agree with Mike Smith's comments after the race, she may have needed this race and believe it or not she may move fwd from this race, in addition Moss was quoted as saying Delmar was not written in stone via Hovday. We will see.
yeah, i noted their comments she had lost weight, and her works were slower than normal. hopefully all is well, and she won't take the usual tack....this mare needs to go in the pac classic if she runs at del mar.
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Old 06-15-2010, 08:05 AM
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yeah, i noted their comments she had lost weight, and her works were slower than normal. hopefully all is well, and she won't take the usual tack....this mare needs to go in the pac classic if she runs at del mar.
Judging by Sheriff's comments he will probably ship after Delmar if they go at Delmar, he needs a filler race to bridge between her last prep and the BCC. From the sounds of it he doesn't sound too gung ho about the Delmar surface and the inconsistencies of it, nor is he too concerned about running her for HOY honors. She's going to carry 130+ if she is going in any filly/mare race, I believe The Beldame is a weight for age race so this might make sense before the BCC, 1 ship, kill 2 birds with one stone.
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