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dean smith · #1 06-13-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

As far as I'm concerned zenyatta is not even in discussions for HOY at this point, what has she done do deserve it so far?? Nothing. She better start making any statement she can at this point. Another meatball schedule is not doing her any favors up till now. And another thing she is not even the front runner coming out of Cali right now for HOY, Rail Trip is ahead of her currently imo

If Zenyatta does nothing but beat fields full of miniature ponies at county fairs the rest of the year and remains undefeated, they will give her HOY for lifetime achievement... or as an apology for the previous two years. Believe it.

hockey2315 · #2 06-13-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dean smith

If Zenyatta does nothing but beat fields full of miniature ponies at county fairs the rest of the year and remains undefeated, they will give her HOY for lifetime achievement... or as an apology for the previous two years. Believe it.

This is very wrong.

ateamstupid · #3 06-13-2010, 06:26 PM

It'd be pretty damn hilarious (and telling) if Zenyatta went 20-for-20 and never won HOY.

RockHardTen1985 · #4 06-13-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It'd be pretty damn hilarious (and telling) if Zenyatta went 20-for-20 and never won HOY.

If she went 20-20, I think she would have to win the Classic this year, and that would assure her HOY....
But like Brian said above, he is simply wrong. QR and Blame are both legit, QR is actually far ahead right now for HOY IMO.

ateamstupid · #5 06-13-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

If she went 20-20, I think she would have to win the Classic this year, and that would assure her HOY....
But like Brian said above, he is simply wrong. QR and Blame are both legit, QR is actually far ahead right now for HOY IMO.

I disagree that the Classic would assure her anything if they keep going the safe route. If QR wins the Donn, Met Mile, Whitney and Woodward, that would probably beat (essentially) just a BCC win.

RockHardTen1985 · #6 06-13-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I disagree that the Classic would assure her anything if they keep going the safe route. If QR wins the Donn, Met Mile, Whitney and Woodward, that would probably beat (essentially) just a BCC win.

You know I am the biggest QR guy around, but I disagree.... If she wins the Classic this year, I would think she has to win it, but these are all huge ifs...For the record, I think QR is sitting on a MONSTER YEAR, and he will win HOY.

Indian Charlie · #7 06-13-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

You know I am the biggest QR guy around, but I disagree.... If she wins the Classic this year, I would think she has to win it, but these are all huge ifs...For the record, I think QR is sitting on a MONSTER YEAR, and he will win HOY.

For the record, huh?

I'm glad you finally took a strong position on the horse.

ateamstupid · #8 06-13-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

You know I am the biggest QR guy around, but I disagree.... If she wins the Classic this year, I would think she has to win it, but these are all huge ifs...For the record, I think QR is sitting on a MONSTER YEAR, and he will win HOY.

He's already had a great year, it's a shame they're only going to run him six times. And there's no way in hell he beats Zenyatta at 1 1/4.

dean smith · #9 06-13-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I disagree that the Classic would assure her anything if they keep going the safe route. If QR wins the Donn, Met Mile, Whitney and Woodward, that would probably beat (essentially) just a BCC win.

So, a 20-20 lifetime record and a head-to-head win vs. QR in the BCC (especially if the field includes RA...) would not be enough to win Zenyatta HOY? A second BCC in a row, btw.

Respectfully, you are high.

Unless the anti-West Coast bias is stronger than I thought.

slotdirt · #10 06-13-2010, 07:36 PM

I would suggest that anybody who thinks Zenyatta's really going to cross those dreaded Rockies again is the one who is smoking something off.

ateamstupid · #11 06-13-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dean smith

So, a 20-20 lifetime record and a head-to-head win vs. QR in the BCC (especially if the field includes RA...) would not be enough to win Zenyatta HOY? A second BCC in a row, btw.

Respectfully, you are high.

Unless the anti-West Coast bias is stronger than I thought.

Is it Horse of the Life or Horse of the Year? Your assumption that she'd be home free is based on the idea that the voters will treat it as a lifetime achievement award. That's made up. She was 14-for-14 after the Classic last year and she still didn't get it.

Cannon Shell · #12 06-13-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dean smith

So, a 20-20 lifetime record and a head-to-head win vs. QR in the BCC (especially if the field includes RA...) would not be enough to win Zenyatta HOY? A second BCC in a row, btw.

Respectfully, you are high.

Unless the anti-West Coast bias is stronger than I thought.

Being 20 for 20 should have no bearing on this years horse of the year voting.
Honestly the more you look at Zenyatta's PP's, the more of a joke it it that people think that these races that she is winning should have any bearing on the HoY voting. The same crappy schedule shouldn't be rewarded, it should be scorned.