The former Gulf of Mexico

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Riot

I was in favor of offshore drilling, certainly shallow-water drilling, but no more. Unbridled capitalism can't fix the decades of loss we are facing. Oil from the Valdez is still on the beaches, just under the surface, 21 years later. BP doesn't care about fixing the rest of the leak (not that they ever did in the first place), now that they are collecting good oil off the cap and earning money off that well.

You guys have to watch this video - divers going below the surface.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGX7k...layer_embedded

'bp doesent care' ..thats fn stupid ..its 5,ooo feet down ..this post will forever garner you the title of 'the dumbest **** in the world

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

'bp doesent care' ..thats fn stupid ..its 5,ooo feet down ..this post will forever garner you the title of 'the dumbest **** in the world

No, it's not fn stupid, you moronic d**head. They make money on oil. They lose money on safety implementations (they are currently fighting safety standards - the same ones which lack of caused the gulf disaster - for their Canadian drilling ops). They lose money spending it on cleanup.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, it's not fn stupid, you moronic d**head. They make money on oil. They lose money on safety implementations (they are currently fighting safety standards - the same ones which lack of caused the gulf disaster - for their Canadian drilling ops). They lose money spending it on cleanup.

well i can see the gulf from my back yard. bp has hired every fishing boat in the area to work the boom lines.they have set up community claims centers all over the gulf from new orleans to key west. there were 30 clean up crews on the beach 1 day before the first blob of oil hit. they have stated they will pay claims for any loss of income..ie canceled bookings for rental homes ect.
it was an unfortunate mistake made on the platform. the high menthane pressure was not dealt with correctly. as i am sure you will come back on here and tell me diffrent. ill let it go.

also many oil rigs were damaged durring hurricane ivan and katrina..not
1 has had a problem like this .they have been fixed as much as possible.
think about this riot..how much do you think it costs too build one of these rigs.? and you really think they dont care?..the us coast gaurd , the epa,
osha, has had standerds for years that have made this kind of accident
a non issue. you dont know **** about what your saying. and i heard somthing
last night you will like ...this could have been stopped in 6 days by Halliburton
and obamas people wouldent even concider it. point your mouth twards your
boy obama..hes the one who does not care....this info came from the military......

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

well i can see the gulf from my back yard. bp has hired every fishing boat in the area to work the boom lines.they have set up community claims centers all over the gulf from new orleans to key west. there were 30 clean up crews on the beach 1 day before the first blob of oil hit. they have stated they will pay claims for any loss of income..ie canceled bookings for rental homes ect.
it was an unfortunate mistake made on the platform. the high mentane pressure was not dealt with correctly. as i am sure you will come back on here and tell me diffrent. ill let it go.

also many oil rigs were damaged durring hurricane ivan and katrina..not
1 has had a problem like this .they have been fixed as much as possible.
think about this riot..how much do you think it costs too build one of these rigs.? and you really think they dont care?..the us coast gaurd , the epa,
osha, has had standerds for years that have made this kind of accident
a non issue. you dont know **** about what your saying. and i heard somthing
last night you will like ...this could have been stopped in 6 days by Halliburton
and obamas people wouldent even concider it. point your mouth twards your
boy obama..hes the one who does not care....this info came from the military......

Have you heard anything about the 33 deep-water rigs that are shut down?

I have.

Seems like Soros the Hedge Fund Hog is looking to move a few of them down south.

It must be nice to have employees in high places.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

.how much do you think it costs too build one of these rigs.? and you really think they dont care?.

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Riot

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

The response to the spill is clearly Dubya's fault. If he wouldn't have f.ucked up for 8 years then we wouldn't have the community organizer in charge looking to kick some ass and file criminal charges before the spill is stopped.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

Really it was more of a Cheney reference ...

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

sure you can..why exactly does this include him..

its a knee jerk reaction any time obama looks like a fool.blame bush/ch..
we wanted 'change' but not at the expense of the gulf of mexico..if true that
obama wouldent concider using kbr when in fact they were able to stop
the leak alot sooner thats just wrong.ive checked around and they do this [cap wells] also typical is the rush to blame the oil company for lax safety.
it was an industrial accident.obama dropped the ball on his toe..

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

I believe you maybe on to something here just the wrong suspect. Locally we are hearing the condo Rahm stayed in rent-free in DC for five years is owned by a guy (Greenburg) who along with James Carvell and another guy run a consulting/promo business (GCS I think) with BP as a customer. In fact these guy's came up with the whole "Greener, friendlier BP" with all the green logos etc. I don't see any crime in any of this yet but it does have that Chicago stink I'm so familiar with.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Riot

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

your second award is on the way ..fine work..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

your second award is on the way ..fine work..

I'll stick with BP being careless, incompetent in the face of disaster, and deliberately sacrificing safety for profit.

You stick with calling this an "industrial accident", and that it's wrong to, "blame the oil company for lax safety".

We'll see.

[Honu]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html


Maybe this is who we should blame, our corrupt politicians and the lobbyists they employ really they should be very ashamed of themselves but of course they arent.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'll stick with BP being careless, incompetent in the face of disaster, and deliberately sacrificing safety for profit.

You stick with calling this an "industrial accident", and that it's wrong to, "blame the oil company for lax safety".

We'll see.

Give BP credit. Like Carter and Obama with the mideast, they understand the complexity of the problem and in your mind isn't that what counts?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

Wouldn't it be more interesting to find the motives behind the signing of the Deep Water Royality Relief Act? You know the one that implemented a royalty-relief program that relieved eligible leases from paying royalties on defined amounts of deep-water petroleum production over Federal Outer Continental Shelf lands. When leases for wells deeper than 800 meters went from 39 wells to 171 wells. Then in the next three years saw 712, 1110 and 771 additional leases issued? C'mon that's going from 39 deep water leases to 2764 in four years. The fact that the Clinton/Gore administration, you know the 'green guys', were the ones that signed the Act would seemingly make it a must see comedy.

[Riot]

Clinton certainly was the first to open up offshore drilling.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Clinton certainly was the first to open up offshore drilling.

but guess why in deep water?