The former Gulf of Mexico

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

.how much do you think it costs too build one of these rigs.? and you really think they dont care?.

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Riot

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

The response to the spill is clearly Dubya's fault. If he wouldn't have f.ucked up for 8 years then we wouldn't have the community organizer in charge looking to kick some ass and file criminal charges before the spill is stopped.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

Really it was more of a Cheney reference ...

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But..but..you aren't allowed to bring up Bush in this forum.

sure you can..why exactly does this include him..

its a knee jerk reaction any time obama looks like a fool.blame bush/ch..
we wanted 'change' but not at the expense of the gulf of mexico..if true that
obama wouldent concider using kbr when in fact they were able to stop
the leak alot sooner thats just wrong.ive checked around and they do this [cap wells] also typical is the rush to blame the oil company for lax safety.
it was an industrial accident.obama dropped the ball on his toe..

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

I believe you maybe on to something here just the wrong suspect. Locally we are hearing the condo Rahm stayed in rent-free in DC for five years is owned by a guy (Greenburg) who along with James Carvell and another guy run a consulting/promo business (GCS I think) with BP as a customer. In fact these guy's came up with the whole "Greener, friendlier BP" with all the green logos etc. I don't see any crime in any of this yet but it does have that Chicago stink I'm so familiar with.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Riot

If BP cared (about the gulf), they wouldn't have spent, and currently are spending, so much time and effort and money fighting to have safety requirements waived or removed. BP wouldn't have disregarded the safe methods, supervisors having a fight over disregarding it, the night the rig blew and killed those men.

BP is a corporation. I expect them to think of their owners first. That is their responsibility. Our government through MM was responsible for not allowing our interests - as the owners of the property - to be disregarded. For not allowing BP to literally write their own safety inspections.

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

your second award is on the way ..fine work..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

your second award is on the way ..fine work..

I'll stick with BP being careless, incompetent in the face of disaster, and deliberately sacrificing safety for profit.

You stick with calling this an "industrial accident", and that it's wrong to, "blame the oil company for lax safety".

We'll see.

[Honu]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html


Maybe this is who we should blame, our corrupt politicians and the lobbyists they employ really they should be very ashamed of themselves but of course they arent.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html


Maybe this is who we should blame, our corrupt politicians and the lobbyists they employ really they should be very ashamed of themselves but of course they arent.

The quoted article, above, is dated May 5th.

Another point of view:
Media Matters EXCLUSIVE: Debunking the myth of Obama's "BP cash"
May 24, 2010 2:47 pm ET by Julie Millican & Eric Schroeck
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005240042

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

The quoted article, above, is dated May 5th.

Another point of view:
Media Matters EXCLUSIVE: Debunking the myth of Obama's "BP cash"
May 24, 2010 2:47 pm ET by Julie Millican & Eric Schroeck
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005240042

Who do you think gives the employees the money to donate ?????? You cannot be that blind read the rest of the article they pay commitees and spend millions on lobbying . Do you really believe that BP has no influence on how the regulatory commissions do buisness when they or their employess give them so much money. Get a clue .

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

Who do you think gives the employees the money to donate ?????? You cannot be that blind read the rest of the article they pay commitees and spend millions on lobbying . Do you really believe that BP has no influence on how the regulatory commissions do buisness when they or their employess give them so much money. Get a clue .

No. You haven't noticed I've already posted about BP being in bed with MM, I guess.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'll stick with BP being careless, incompetent in the face of disaster, and deliberately sacrificing safety for profit.

You stick with calling this an "industrial accident", and that it's wrong to, "blame the oil company for lax safety".

We'll see.

Give BP credit. Like Carter and Obama with the mideast, they understand the complexity of the problem and in your mind isn't that what counts?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's see what comes out regarding the now famous meeting 100 days into oil man Bush's White House. Where Cheney met in secret with the oil companies. No minutes, no records. The whistleblowers are gonna fall from the skies.

Wouldn't it be more interesting to find the motives behind the signing of the Deep Water Royality Relief Act? You know the one that implemented a royalty-relief program that relieved eligible leases from paying royalties on defined amounts of deep-water petroleum production over Federal Outer Continental Shelf lands. When leases for wells deeper than 800 meters went from 39 wells to 171 wells. Then in the next three years saw 712, 1110 and 771 additional leases issued? C'mon that's going from 39 deep water leases to 2764 in four years. The fact that the Clinton/Gore administration, you know the 'green guys', were the ones that signed the Act would seemingly make it a must see comedy.

[Riot]

Clinton certainly was the first to open up offshore drilling.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Clinton certainly was the first to open up offshore drilling.

but guess why in deep water?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

but guess why in deep water?

What does Hannity tell you think regarding "why in deep water"?

The Republican-lead Congress/Senate created and passed the deepwater royalty relief act to give a $ break to big oil regarding their payments to the government, lead by the GOP reps of the gulf states. Clinton signed it.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

What does Hannity tell you think regarding "why in deep water"?

The Republican-lead Congress/Senate created and passed the deepwater royalty relief act to give a $ break to big oil regarding their payments to the government, lead by the GOP reps of the gulf states. Clinton signed it.

Hmmm then this article published a year before Bubba signed it must have been all wrong.


U.S. offshore operators got a boost last week when the Clinton administration offered its support for a deepwater royalty relief bill pending in Congress. (Brief Article)
The Oil and Gas Journal| April 18, 1994

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Hmmm then this article published a year before Bubba signed it must have been all wrong.

What is "all wrong"?