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Old 06-06-2010, 11:34 PM
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http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/...for-a-solution

As usual, the situation is somewhat more complex than the Obama haters want it to be. This is a decent article on it.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:04 AM
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http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/...for-a-solution

As usual, the situation is somewhat more complex than the Obama haters want it to be. This is a decent article on it.
So you're in favor of ending the international moratorium on whaling? And you are ok with Obama breaking his promise?

I understand the supposed complexities of the situation. But it must not be all that complex because every single anti-whaling group is against ending the ban. How do you explain that? Do you think all these groups are Obama haters?

I'm sure if Bush was the President right now and he wanted to end the whaling ban, you would be talking about how complex the situation is. LOL.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:10 AM
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no doubt in my mind that even if whale numbers were higher than ever, anti-whalers would be against removing a moratorium. they're not exactly who i'd ask to give an unbiased opinion.
as for obama 'breaking a promise', he should never have made that or any promise to begin with. promises are made to be broken-if anyone knows that, a politician does!
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:48 PM
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As long as it doesn't ruin Whale Wars, I'm okay with whatever they decide.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:01 PM
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What a silly show. Wonder how many millions they spend attacking humans for catching a species of whale that isn't endangered/protected?
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:43 PM
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What a silly show. Wonder how many millions they spend attacking humans for catching a species of whale that isn't endangered/protected?
I believe the whales that the Japanese kill are mainly minke whales. They may not be as endangered as humpback whales, but they are still considered a "threatened species". By the way, Japan wants to start killing humpback whales too.

I guess since they are only a "threatened species" on the endagered species list, that it's fine to kill them. LOL.

"Minkes whales are listed on the endangered species list as a threatened species as there remains only approximately 800,000 minkes in the world. Some Japanese and Russian vessels are still known to hunt minke whales. Minke whales have been protected by international law since 1986."

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_min...dangered_whale

"Although it's numbers are not endangered it is on the endangered list as a threatened species, and is protected (since 1986) worldwide by international law."

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Old 06-07-2010, 09:24 PM
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Ok, so is it going to ruin Whale Wars or not, Rupert?
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:43 PM
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What a silly show. Wonder how many millions they spend attacking humans for catching a species of whale that isn't endangered/protected?
You probably think it's ok for the Canadians to club baby seals to death since baby seals aren't endangered.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:55 PM
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You probably think it's ok for the Canadians to club baby seals to death since baby seals aren't endangered.
If that is where they get Canadian Club, then I am in favor
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I'm not fan of the current Prez or anything, but breaking campaign promises isn't news. The bottom line is that there are so many people dumb enough to believe anything politicians say that anyone telling the truth has zero shot at election. You have to lie to win, and they all know it. Tell them what they want to hear....Tell them what's in it for them...Tell them how you are going to "reform"...just don't tell anyone what your real agenda is.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:01 PM
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O'Dumbass breaking a promise. How many times now has this sorry excuse for a President broken campaign promises?
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:22 PM
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no doubt in my mind that even if whale numbers were higher than ever, anti-whalers would be against removing a moratorium. they're not exactly who i'd ask to give an unbiased opinion.
as for obama 'breaking a promise', he should never have made that or any promise to begin with. promises are made to be broken-if anyone knows that, a politician does!
You are totally missing the point. If there was some type of debate going on about the numbers of the whale population, then we would want an unbiased group's opinion. In this case, there is no debate about that. The Obama Administration has never claimed that the whale population is in good shape. Quite to the contrary, the Obama Administration is saying that we need to protect the whales.

"The Obama administration argues that the new deal will save thousands of whales over the next decade by stopping the three countries from illegally exploiting loopholes in the moratorium."

The point is that Obama is the only one that thinks this will save whales.

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