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Old 06-02-2010, 04:17 PM
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Pretty nice that they are taking him from AAA to AAAA by feeding him the Pirates and their .237 team batting average.
Don't tell the Cubs that the Pirates suck. They are now 1-6 against them this season.

Honestly the Nationals seem to be making all the right moves with SS including bringing him up to face some of the weaket lineups in baseball for his first 6 or 7 starts. They resisted the pressure to start the season with him, effectively buying time and getting another year of control over his contract situation. They also have seemingly brought him up the ladder rapid enough to let him get some experience without too much stress. He will have plenty of that once he gets to the majors as he is going to be expected to pitch better than any other rookie maybe ever has. That isn't saying that he will or wont but the expectation levels for this guy are extreme.
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:31 PM
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Don't tell the Cubs that the Pirates suck. They are now 1-6 against them this season.

Honestly the Nationals seem to be making all the right moves with SS including bringing him up to face some of the weaket lineups in baseball for his first 6 or 7 starts. They resisted the pressure to start the season with him, effectively buying time and getting another year of control over his contract situation. They also have seemingly brought him up the ladder rapid enough to let him get some experience without too much stress. He will have plenty of that once he gets to the majors as he is going to be expected to pitch better than any other rookie maybe ever has. That isn't saying that he will or wont but the expectation levels for this guy are extreme.
Yeah, I originally gave him 8 starts before his arm falls off. They've done a good job, he might make it to his third season before it falls off. Either way it was happening at some point.
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:49 PM
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Yeah, I originally gave him 8 starts before his arm falls off. They've done a good job, he might make it to his third season before it falls off. Either way it was happening at some point.
Why would you say that? The guy has flawless mechanics. And he is not a Met. 2 positive attributes
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:53 PM
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Why would you say that? The guy has flawless mechanics. And he is not a Met. 2 positive attributes
The human body isn't designed to throw over 100 mph and he was doing it at a young age, the perfect recipe for injury.
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The human body isn't designed to throw over 100 mph and he was doing it at a young age, the perfect recipe for injury.
Well at least Dusty Baker doesn't get a chance to get a hold of him, but Jim Riggleman on the other hand is hardly an upgrade.
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:16 PM
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Well at least Dusty Baker doesn't get a chance to get a hold of him, but Jim Riggleman on the other hand is hardly an upgrade.
Riggleman is on a short leach. It is incredible that teams continue to hire Baker, he makes the same mistakes everywhere he goes...
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Riggleman is on a short leach. It is incredible that teams continue to hire Baker, he makes the same mistakes everywhere he goes...
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:14 PM
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The human body isn't designed to throw over 100 mph and he was doing it at a young age, the perfect recipe for injury.
Uh Nolan Ryan? How hard you throw has nothing to do with injuries. Not to mention he is neither young nor has he been overworked. Until he got into shape and straightened out his mechanics he was very ordinary which is why he landed at a B level school like SD State. While the act of throwing a baseball overhand is unnatural, many more injuries are caused either by overuse by ignorant managers, poor mechanics or overrelience on breaking balls.
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Uh Nolan Ryan? How hard you throw has nothing to do with injuries. Not to mention he is neither young nor has he been overworked. Until he got into shape and straightened out his mechanics he was very ordinary which is why he landed at a B level school like SD State. While the act of throwing a baseball overhand is unnatural, many more injuries are caused either by overuse by ignorant managers, poor mechanics or overrelience on breaking balls.
Ryan was a hard thrower with amazing durability but his fastest pitch ever was 100.9 and he did that at the age of 27, not as a college kid. He also wasn't regularly hitting 100+ like Strasburg was last year. The real question will be whether the kid can drop back to 97-98 and be as effective. So far in the minors it has been no problem but if he has to rely on a 103 mph fastball to do well in the big leagues his shelf life will be short as a starting pitcher.
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Ryan was a hard thrower with amazing durability but his fastest pitch ever was 100.9 and he did that at the age of 27, not as a college kid. He also wasn't regularly hitting 100+ like Strasburg was last year. The real question will be whether the kid can drop back to 97-98 and be as effective. So far in the minors it has been no problem but if he has to rely on a 103 mph fastball to do well in the big leagues his shelf life will be short as a starting pitcher.
How do you know what his fastest pitch ever was? There was no public radar readings in the late 60/early 70's when Ryan started. Your inference that somehow Ryan was not throwing that fast when he was Strausburgs age is faulty. Ryan had already pitched over 200 major league innings at the same age that SS is going to debut at as well. There is zero evidence that throwing a baseball a certain mph causes injuries. In fact the fastball is generally considered to be the kindest and most straight forward pitch a player can throw.

I'm not sure why you think that Nolan Ryan wasnt regularly throwing as fast as SS. As for SS, he doesnt rely on throwing the ball over 100 mph. I'm not sure where you got that impression. The guy throws very hard but lives in the 95-98 range with very good breaking balls, a hard slider and slurve. He has even mixed in a little changeup though it may not be ready for too much MLB exposure.
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