Belmont Entries for 5/29.... Very Poor

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Buckpasser

I respect you very much Steve and think you are great, and your show is great, but you sound like a shill for the NYRA trying to defend this crappy card. 5 Maiden races on a Saturday, and three of them maiden claimers? come on, that just sucks. Maybe during the week it's ok but on a Holiday weekend? I disagree.

Do you believe that NYRA is holding back some great stash of better horses?

The horses that are available to PJ Campo right now are not the types they used to be. This isn't news to anyone and this card, unfortunately, is very typical of what has gone on over the last few months.

Is Campo doing a good job carding competitive races that make for good wagering affairs? Sure. Is he doing so with top shelf horses? No.

Go wager on Monmouth. Remember it too because next year when they've returned to anonymity with a fraction of their current purse structure they'll need you.

NT

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Do you believe that NYRA is holding back some great stash of better horses?

The horses that are available to PJ Campo right now are not the types they used to be. This isn't news to anyone and this card, unfortunately, is very typical of what has gone on over the last few months.

Is Campo doing a good job carding competitive races that make for good wagering affairs? Sure. Is he doing so with top shelf horses? No.

Go wager on Monmouth. Remember it too because next year when they've returned to anonymity with a fraction of their current purse structure they'll need you.

NT

So you have taken a position of the failure of Monmouth. Better go read some more. I'm surprised, but not really.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by MisterB

So you have taken a position of the failure of Monmouth. Better go read some more. I'm surprised, but not really.

I've taken the position that this is a one year thing. I don't believe that the subsidy will continue next year. There's already opposition from some state senators that the casinos should not be paying anything toward the racetracks. If sentiment grows to let the racetracks go on their own then the NJSEA is in big trouble.

I should know better than to expect anything rational from state governments. I applaud Monmouth for what they're doing now and they're going to have a terrific summer but whether they have the means to do it again is unlikely in my opinion.

NT

If it's this bad then why ask for the $25 million? That's not going to solve the problem.

Just shut the meet down and wait for Saratoga or kick out the trainers who keep scratching their horses and make it indefinitely.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I've taken the position that this is a one year thing. I don't believe that the subsidy will continue next year. There's already opposition from some state senators that the casinos should not be paying anything toward the racetracks. If sentiment grows to let the racetracks go on their own then the NJSEA is in big trouble.

I should know better than to expect anything rational from state governments. I applaud Monmouth for what they're doing now and they're going to have a terrific summer but whether they have the means to do it again is unlikely in my opinion.

NT

I don't disagree that this is a temporary situation. If I have to make an educated guess, the Atlantic City subsidy won't be there next year, or the state will make a reduced subsidy if this summer's numbers are good. That being said, if the handle remains like it was this past weekend, it could probably support a three-day schedule with $600K in daily purses. If that becomes the template, then this year will be a rousing success. Keep in mind that $600K would be twice what they gave out daily last year, and I suspect that there would be just as much demand to run at Monmouth with $600K in daily purses as there is this year with purses at a $1 million per day.

[Buckpasser]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Do you believe that NYRA is holding back some great stash of better horses?

The horses that are available to PJ Campo right now are not the types they used to be. This isn't news to anyone and this card, unfortunately, is very typical of what has gone on over the last few months.

Is Campo doing a good job carding competitive races that make for good wagering affairs? Sure. Is he doing so with top shelf horses? No.

Go wager on Monmouth. Remember it too because next year when they've returned to anonymity with a fraction of their current purse structure they'll need you.

NT

Point well made. Thanks for the reasoned response.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Do you believe that NYRA is holding back some great stash of better horses?

The horses that are available to PJ Campo right now are not the types they used to be. This isn't news to anyone and this card, unfortunately, is very typical of what has gone on over the last few months.

Is Campo doing a good job carding competitive races that make for good wagering affairs? Sure. Is he doing so with top shelf horses? No.

Go wager on Monmouth. Remember it too because next year when they've returned to anonymity with a fraction of their current purse structure they'll need you.

NT

And exactly why is this statement relevant to where we put our dollars this weekend and New York running 3 Maiden Claimer races on a Saturday weekend Holiday card? Tell Campo to talk to the Hammer, structure your best to be on a Saturday and structure your Wed-Fri to have the best chance of a Pck 6 carry into the weekend. Finally Customer Service 101, don't trash your customers (talk down to them) when they complain about the product. That happens all the time on this board.

[herkhorse]

maybe on a holiday weekend you want your best to be on the holiday, just thayin'.