Excellent Angle: D Wayne Off

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

One of the main reasons Lukas did so well in the 80s was because he was one of the only guys using steroids. His 2 year olds were the size of 3 year olds. That's why he did so well with 2 year olds. And before you knew it, Lukas was spending $80-$100 million a year on horses while most other big trainers were spending $5 million a year. When you're one of the only guys using steroids and you're outspending everyone by 10x, it's no surprise that he won a ton of races.

After everyone else started using steroids, Lukas' edge was gone.

I'm certainly not a Lukas fan but how exactly is this different from what Pletcher or any of the big name trainers are doing presently. They get the best stock, they have the best vets, they win the most races. Lukas was using steroids, his juicer 'students' are relying on other types of meds. Same old ****. Tell you this much: take away the meds in racing and half of these (presently very successful) idiots couldn't train a poodle. They're frauds. The difference is Lukas is transparent to just about everyone while you, and others, put his juicer students on pedestals.

I mean, you're apparently in the game. Check out what's happening with regularity out in Southern Cali. I've been playing the ponies for over 30 years. Once upon a time, you either routed your horses or sprinted them. Now, in CALI, they go from a single sprint to winning routes. Not only do they win but they outfinish horses that have been routing. Now, that's some serious training ****. Sadler, Mitchell, Baffert, Abrams, etc.; they do it all the time. When's the last time a sprinter was able to stretch and win on the turf after a single sprint? Doesn't happen in too many other venues (excepting the AQU INNER). Guess these horses aren't 'specialists' anymore and they mix up their distances with regularity. New age training. Righttttttttttttt. Same way Pletcher's horses consistently get those WIDE trips and just keep going in the lane.