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10-01-2006, 04:20 PM
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If Godolphin doesnt send this guy in the BC Sprint, it may be the worst move by an owner that I've seen in a while. He would OWN that race...
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10-01-2006, 04:23 PM
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10-01-2006, 04:26 PM
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10-01-2006, 04:26 PM
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BTW, I am not sure what u are getting at when u say it's all about me. I'm asking a simple question here. Why is it so wrong to think outside of traditional paths when may have a horse of a generation?
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10-01-2006, 04:27 PM
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10-01-2006, 04:58 PM
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My point was mistaken.
This horse is something special. But he's also fragile and lightly-raced. Running him in any BC race, be it the Sprint, Mile, Classic, whatever, is ridiculous off of wins over Rumspringa and Valid Notebook. Do any of you realize how much that would put this potential superstar through the wringer? And why? So we get immediate satisfaction. Can we please think bigger picture here? If this horse stays healthy (given that's a big if), we could possibly see the best handicap horse in a few decades next year.. But no, we have to see him in the SPRINT against the BEST SPRINTERS IN THE WORLD, or in the CLASSIC against the BEST DISTANCE HORSES IN THE WORLD, and we have to see it NOW. It's totally short-sighted and unnecessary. I think Godolphin is doing what's right by the horse, and honestly, as much as everyone dislikes the Sheiks, they seem to be among the best at managing their horses in the U.S.
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10-01-2006, 05:09 PM
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I very much doubt we'll see either Joey. No BC, yet not a horse likely to be around for a long time either. I hope I am wrong, its nice to see top talent but it seems the most talented are also the most fragile, a la Surf Cat, Ghostzapper.
Anyway you slice it next Saturday will be super and so will the BC.
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10-01-2006, 05:10 PM
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If he's as fragile as u say (and I'm not saying he isn't), then what makes u think we'll see anything resembling a full campaign from him next year? Or would it be enough for u to see a Ghostzapper type of year from him where he races four times? I say that tomorrow is not promised and when u have a hot iron, u strike. If he's as fragile as u say, wouldn't that be even more of a reason to take advantage of his abilities while he's in form and healthy because it's always going to be 50/50 next year? I wonder if anyone on this board is old enough to remember when horses actually RACED. Now we are talking about skipping a tough race because it would be too tough on him? If he continues on next year, it's very likely that they will point to the Dubai World Cup with him. U don't expect that race to be tough? It would probably be his first start at 10f and first or second start off a layoff.
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10-01-2006, 05:46 PM
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"We'll keep our options open for the Breeders' Cup or Cigar Mile," bin Suroor added. "This horse has the class to run in big group I races. Everything we've asked, he's done so easily. That gives us a lot of confidence for the future. We'll probably give it 10 days, and then decide with Sheikh Mohammed (bin Rashid al Maktoum)." So my question is would u still think they are doing right by him if they run him in the BC? They've been constantly saying that it's very unlikely but now finally they are saying they are keeping their options open. The door is now opened much wider than it was before. Since u say they are doing right by him and they are among the best at managing their horses, would u backtrack off of that statement if they do contrary to what u believe is best or would still say the same thing?
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10-01-2006, 06:28 PM
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10-01-2006, 04:29 PM
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He doesnt have to be on the lead. He is as effective 5 lengths or so off the pace, which is where he'd be if he ran the fractions he ran today. What an amazing talent, hope he enters in a race with some meaning in it. Otherwise he'll just be another "What if".
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10-01-2006, 06:20 PM
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"He has the class to go to Grade One races now. There is either the Breeders' Cup Classic (Churchill Downs) in early November or the Cigar Mile (Aqueduct) at the end of that month. We will keep the options open and consult with Sheikh Mohammed." - Saeed bin Suroor http://godolphin.com/News/2006/October/arch2989.asp
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10-01-2006, 07:40 PM
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10-01-2006, 04:23 PM
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Best horse I have ever seen run and i watch this stuff all day everyday. Those were not slow horses he beat
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10-01-2006, 04:23 PM
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This just in....NYRA has altered the conditions of today's finale and in a twisted BC prep Discreet Cat will be running in the 10th.
For purse money only of course.
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10-01-2006, 04:24 PM
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You just can't stand watching a super horse, that is sad
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