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Old 04-28-2010, 11:42 AM
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What are the chances with this wacky Derby that the exacta will pay 1K or more on a $400 investment?
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:46 AM
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Disagree. I think there's a good chance it does.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:47 AM
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It's actually a $380 investment, and I think there's at least a 50% chance of you showing a profit.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:27 PM
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It's actually a $380 investment, and I think there's at least a 50% chance of you showing a profit.
For a 1$ bet. 20X19X1

760 for a 2....Pass
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:45 PM
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For a 1$ bet. 20X19X1

760 for a 2....Pass
you do know the average payout for the last 10 years is something like $1500 bucks right?
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:53 PM
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I think you can toss the turf horses at least.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:58 PM
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[quote=tanner12oz;640873]you do know the average payout for the last 10 years is something like $1500 bucks right?[/QUOTE

Yes, the median would be a better example here. You expect a Giac/Clos Arg exacta here? (That was what 9 grand or something) Quite a skew.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:32 PM
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you do know the average payout for the last 10 years is something like $1500 bucks right?[/QUOTE

Yes, the median would be a better example here. You expect a Giac/Clos Arg exacta here? (That was what 9 grand or something) Quite a skew.
yeah obviously that is an extreme example and i dont think there is a high probability of that happening...i also think there is a high probability of both lookin at lucky and sidneys candy running out... something in the 10/1-20/1 over a 10/1-20/1 is what im expecting (average win price is $29 bucks past 10 years)

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Old 04-28-2010, 01:00 PM
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It may not be worth it in the exacta but buying a free square in the exotics has been very very good to me over the years in this race and the Preakness.

To get the benefit though you have to spend some money. Last year

All/1,2,15,16/1,2,15,16 paid 20K for $1 which I was lucky enough to have twice. Buying a wheel in these pools can be very very rewarding if you have a little luck and some knowledge that fills.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:42 PM
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It may not be worth it in the exacta but buying a free square in the exotics has been very very good to me over the years in this race and the Preakness.

To get the benefit though you have to spend some money. Last year

All/1,2,15,16/1,2,15,16 paid 20K for $1 which I was lucky enough to have twice. Buying a wheel in these pools can be very very rewarding if you have a little luck and some knowledge that fills.
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Just kidding, I know Doc had this beast... he took me to the Preakness last year because of it.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:47 AM
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I'm thinking over a grand as well.
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I don't know if the risk is worth the reward. Or something.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:48 AM
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Disagree. I think there's a good chance it does.
I think most of the lower priced horses will run their races minus SC so its not for me.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:51 AM
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What about all/all with the Oaks-Derby double, that's only a $280 investment and all you need is Blind Luck to get beat. That could be a huge payoff
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:13 PM
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What about all/all with the Oaks-Derby double, that's only a $280 investment and all you need is Blind Luck to get beat. That could be a huge payoff

$280 is for a buck. The DD would have to pay $560 to just break even... there are some throwouts
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:16 PM
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Im betting All/1,2/1,2 in the derby triple a nice little $36 investment!
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:19 PM
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i think this is a good bet this year...im throwing around the idea...i will toss stately victor to save $20 bucks....think he has 0% chance on hitting the board
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:07 AM
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i think this is a good bet this year...im throwing around the idea...i will toss stately victor to save $20 bucks....think he has 0% chance on hitting the board
What odds you give me to show?
Ya know, since he has no shot.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:07 PM
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Im betting All/1,2/1,2 in the derby triple a nice little $36 investment!
Thats a good idea... though All/1,2 exacta box might have a bigger chance of scoring.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:22 PM
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Im betting All/1,2/1,2 in the derby triple a nice little $36 investment!
Why not add an all in the 3 spot?
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