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clambeau 04-28-2010 11:41 AM

ALL w/ ALL ??
 
What are the chances with this wacky Derby that the exacta will pay 1K or more on a $400 investment?

randallscott35 04-28-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by clambeau (Post 640821)
What are the chances with this wacky Derby that the exacta will pay 1K or more on a $400 investment?

Poor

philcski 04-28-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 640824)
Poor

Disagree. I think there's a good chance it does.

ateamstupid 04-28-2010 11:47 AM

It's actually a $380 investment, and I think there's at least a 50% chance of you showing a profit.

MaTH716 04-28-2010 11:47 AM

I'm thinking over a grand as well.

slotdirt 04-28-2010 11:47 AM

I don't know if the risk is worth the reward. Or something.

randallscott35 04-28-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 640830)
Disagree. I think there's a good chance it does.

I think most of the lower priced horses will run their races minus SC so its not for me.

kgar311 04-28-2010 11:51 AM

What about all/all with the Oaks-Derby double, that's only a $280 investment and all you need is Blind Luck to get beat. That could be a huge payoff

robfla 04-28-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311 (Post 640838)
What about all/all with the Oaks-Derby double, that's only a $280 investment and all you need is Blind Luck to get beat. That could be a huge payoff


$280 is for a buck. The DD would have to pay $560 to just break even... there are some throwouts

EpBurns 04-28-2010 12:16 PM

Im betting All/1,2/1,2 in the derby triple a nice little $36 investment!

tanner12oz 04-28-2010 12:19 PM

i think this is a good bet this year...im throwing around the idea...i will toss stately victor to save $20 bucks....think he has 0% chance on hitting the board

randallscott35 04-28-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 640832)
It's actually a $380 investment, and I think there's at least a 50% chance of you showing a profit.

For a 1$ bet. 20X19X1

760 for a 2....Pass

DaTruth 04-28-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by clambeau (Post 640821)
What are the chances with this wacky Derby that the exacta will pay 1K or more on a $400 investment?

What chance do you give of Lookin At Lucky running either first or second?

tanner12oz 04-28-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 640862)
For a 1$ bet. 20X19X1

760 for a 2....Pass

you do know the average payout for the last 10 years is something like $1500 bucks right?

letswastemoney 04-28-2010 12:53 PM

I think you can toss the turf horses at least.

randallscott35 04-28-2010 12:58 PM

[quote=tanner12oz;640873]you do know the average payout for the last 10 years is something like $1500 bucks right?[/QUOTE

Yes, the median would be a better example here. You expect a Giac/Clos Arg exacta here? (That was what 9 grand or something) Quite a skew.

docicu3 04-28-2010 01:00 PM

It may not be worth it in the exacta but buying a free square in the exotics has been very very good to me over the years in this race and the Preakness.

To get the benefit though you have to spend some money. Last year

All/1,2,15,16/1,2,15,16 paid 20K for $1 which I was lucky enough to have twice. Buying a wheel in these pools can be very very rewarding if you have a little luck and some knowledge that fills.

Antitrust32 04-28-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EpBurns (Post 640856)
Im betting All/1,2/1,2 in the derby triple a nice little $36 investment!

Thats a good idea... though All/1,2 exacta box might have a bigger chance of scoring.

ateamstupid 04-28-2010 01:16 PM

I never quite understood wheeling horses underneath only. Especially in a 20-horse field, how do you determine that certain horses are good enough to run second, but not win?

randallscott35 04-28-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 640890)
I never quite understood wheeling horses underneath only. Especially in a 20-horse field, how do you determine that certain horses are good enough to run second, but not win?

I agree.


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