I Tip My Hat Off To Jim Nantz

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by GPK

This whole thing makes me laugh. Like Bigs said...you want your child to hear some real language?? Take them to an NFL game. Or, for that matter, take them to an LPGA event and let them get close enough to hear conversations and things players say after a bad shot. There are plenty of girls out there that drop the F bomb tons throughout a single round of golf. You never hear about it, because there are no mics out there to catch it. I remember years ago Curtis Strange got fined because a mic caught him cussing. If Curtis had a mic on him all the time like Tiger does, he would have been paying more out in fines than he would having been making in prize money.
If the worst thing that parents have to worry about is their kids hearing Tiger say: "Tiger, you suck" or "God D*mmit", well they must live in a bubble. Don't like the way Tiger acts on the course? YOU take up golf, play with your child and YOU show them how you think they should act while playing.

I'm dropping this after I say this. For numerous reasons.

Curtis Strange compared to Tiger Woods is like Apples and Oranges.

NFL? Come on man, its so different. Contact, emotions etc etc.. Physical.

LPGA players compared to Tiger Woods is like comparing well I'm at a loss of words.

I hope that parents take your advice and take their kids out and play rounds with their kids and show them how they should act while playing cause I know as well as many other folks who love and respect this game that when the camera and mic are on and your on stage its your chance.

Sad day in Golf when his actions on the course are treated this way. I was raised different. Guess I'm on the outside looking in.

Probably coming from the same generation who will leave ball marks on the greens, not seed their divots, talk on their cell phones on course, throw their putter when they miss etc etc etc..

Call me old school all you want but that is total BS and laughs in the face of what this sport is all about.

Of all people you should know that man.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

I'm dropping this after I say this. For numerous reasons.

Curtis Strange compared to Tiger Woods is like Apples and Oranges.

NFL? Come on man, its so different. Contact, emotions etc etc.. Physical.

LPGA players compared to Tiger Woods is like comparing well I'm at a loss of words.

I hope that parents take your advice and take their kids out and play rounds with their kids and show them how they should act while playing cause I know as well as many other folks who love and respect this game that when the camera and mic are on and your on stage its your chance.

Sad day in Golf when his actions on the course are treated this way. I was raised different. Guess I'm on the outside looking in.

Probably coming from the same generation who will leave ball marks on the greens, not seed their divots, talk on their cell phones on course, throw their putter when they miss etc etc etc..

Call me old school all you want but that is total BS and laughs in the face of what this sport is all about.

Of all people you should know that man.

you said bs.

good for you. seriously.

welcome to the human race. you just need to dial the judgement back a tad.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

I'm dropping this after I say this. For numerous reasons.

Curtis Strange compared to Tiger Woods is like Apples and Oranges.

NFL? Come on man, its so different. Contact, emotions etc etc.. Physical.

LPGA players compared to Tiger Woods is like comparing well I'm at a loss of words.

I hope that parents take your advice and take their kids out and play rounds with their kids and show them how they should act while playing cause I know as well as many other folks who love and respect this game that when the camera and mic are on and your on stage its your chance.

Sad day in Golf when his actions on the course are treated this way. I was raised different. Guess I'm on the outside looking in.

Probably coming from the same generation who will leave ball marks on the greens, not seed their divots, talk on their cell phones on course, throw their putter when they miss etc etc etc..

Call me old school all you want but that is total BS and laughs in the face of what this sport is all about.

Of all people you should know that man.

You completely missed the NFL point. I wasn't talking about the players, I was talking about what your kids will hear while sitting in the stadium watching the game. They will hear a 1000X more cursing in one 3 hour game, than if they watched every shot of Tiger Woods for a season.

He said God Damn one time in four rounds and Nantz is up in arms. There are many more bigger fish to fry than that.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

You completely missed the NFL point. I wasn't talking about the players, I was talking about what your kids will hear while sitting in the stadium watching the game. They will hear a 1000X more cursing in one 3 hour game, than if they watched every shot of Tiger Woods for a season.

He said God Damn one time in four rounds and Nantz is up in arms. There are many more bigger fish to fry than that.

I'm certainly not personally offended by any language, least of all what Tiger may have said on Sunday, BUT, golf is supposed to be different, a GENTLEMAN'S game, where player's are held to the highest standards of any sport, a game where players enforce the rules on themselves.

Do not for a second pretend you are not a bastion of class and integrity while out on the links I know better.

Tiger has brought many great things to the PGA tour, but class and sportsmanship are not 2 of them.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by golfer

Do not for a second pretend you are not a bastion of class and integrity while out on the links I know better.

I don't know what you are talking about.

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by golfer

I'm certainly not personally offended by any language, least of all what Tiger may have said on Sunday, BUT, golf is supposed to be different, a GENTLEMAN'S game, where player's are held to the highest standards of any sport, a game where players enforce the rules on themselves.

Do not for a second pretend you are not a bastion of class and integrity while out on the links I know better.

Tiger has brought many great things to the PGA tour, but class and sportsmanship are not 2 of them.

Thank You

[hi_im_god]

i'm going out on a crappy flat par 63 course tomorrow morning.

maybe i'll curse less knowing it's a gentleman's game. probably not though.

i hate empathizing with billionaires but whatever flaws he has at least tiger woods helped make this somewhat more of an everyman's game.

i'd kick in the balls any of my hacker friends that used "darn" without irony.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

I'm dropping this after I say this. For numerous reasons.

Curtis Strange compared to Tiger Woods is like Apples and Oranges.

So, you have spent more time around Curtis Strange on the course than I have? Good to know.
NFL? Come on man, its so different. Contact, emotions etc etc.. Physical.

Like Bigs said...I was referring to the fans.
LPGA players compared to Tiger Woods is like comparing well I'm at a loss of words.
I guess you have spent more time out there caddying out there than I have too, huh?
I hope that parents take your advice and take their kids out and play rounds with their kids and show them how they should act while playing cause I know as well as many other folks who love and respect this game that when the camera and mic are on and your on stage its your chance.

Sad day in Golf when his actions on the course are treated this way. I was raised different. Guess I'm on the outside looking in.
Every single generation has had their own bad boy that displays more emotion and passion than others do. It just happens that Tiger is the best player in the world displaying that emotion and passion. I assure you (and your cousin can probably confirm this) but Tiger is far from the worst behaved golfer on Tour. Pat Perez has gotten better, but his behavior on course would make Tiger look like Byron Nelson.
Probably coming from the same generation who will leave ball marks on the greens, not seed their divots, talk on their cell phones on course, throw their putter when they miss etc etc etc..
I have worked in the golf industry since I was 17 years old, im 37 now, so that makes more half my life. I got news for you, people not fixing balls marks, reseeding divots, etc...has never changed.
Call me old school all you want but that is total BS and laughs in the face of what this sport is all about.

Of all people you should know that man.

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[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by GPK

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My little brother used to act just like Tiger on the course when things did not go his way. Then, he grew up with the help of some old school golfers who led him into this way of life he lives now - RESPECT.

You can throw out all the facts you want about who you have been around, worked around and who I have not but it does not diminish one thing.

This game, your way of living, my little brothers way of living, my cousin's way of living, is about the people who made it possible before them and treating the game with RESPECT.

Game = People, places and things.

I do believe Tiger will get it right and shame on me for calling him out

By the way man, again, Curtis Stange compared to Tiger Woods?

Last point from me cause I am leaving in a few short hours for several days and will not be online - just cause you have the background in the game you do Kev does not solidify your opinion one way or the other. I honestly believe you have blinders on when it comes to Tiger Woods. Your background is the game, you make your living in it. I don't, but I look back on how I was brought up in it and the roots and seeds that were planted in my mind. Roots and seeds that centered around actions, behaviors and respect to the game.

There is a difference.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

My little brother used to act just like Tiger on the course when things did not go his way. Then, he grew up with the help of some old school golfers who led him into this way of life he lives now - RESPECT.

You can throw out all the facts you want about who you have been around, worked around and who I have not but it does not diminish one thing.

This game, your way of living, my little brothers way of living, my cousin's way of living, is about the people who made it possible before them and treating the game with RESPECT.

Game = People, places and things.

I do believe Tiger will get it right and shame on me for calling him out

By the way man, again, Curtis Stange compared to Tiger Woods?

Last point from me cause I am leaving in a few short hours for several days and will not be online - just cause you have the background in the game you do Kev does not solidify your opinion one way or the other. I honestly believe you have blinders on when it comes to Tiger Woods. Your background is the game, you make your living in it. I don't, but I look back on how I was brought up in it and the roots and seeds that were planted in my mind. Roots and seeds that centered around actions, behaviors and respect to the game.

There is a difference.

You're not understanding the point I'm trying to make.

I'm not saying my opinion is right, because it is just an opinion. That being said, with my background in this sport, the people I have been associated with, the things I have been privy to, I do tend to think my opinion carrys a little more weight than someone that hasn't been in those situations. It's no different than Byk, Serling, Drugs, CMOrioles, Chucks, etc..and their opinions on horse racing and the industry as a whole. Yes, it is still their opinions, but I'm willing to admit their opinions carry much more weight than mine, as I'm not privy to the situations they are. I'm not surrounded by it 24 hours a day, as they are.

And yes, comparing Curtis to Tiger is very apt, considering they way I am comparing them has zero to do with their talent as a golfer.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

My little brother used to act just like Tiger on the course when things did not go his way. Then, he grew up with the help of some old school golfers who led him into this way of life he lives now - RESPECT.

You can throw out all the facts you want about who you have been around, worked around and who I have not but it does not diminish one thing.

This game, your way of living, my little brothers way of living, my cousin's way of living, is about the people who made it possible before them and treating the game with RESPECT.

Game = People, places and things.

I do believe Tiger will get it right and shame on me for calling him out

By the way man, again, Curtis Stange compared to Tiger Woods?

Last point from me cause I am leaving in a few short hours for several days and will not be online - just cause you have the background in the game you do Kev does not solidify your opinion one way or the other. I honestly believe you have blinders on when it comes to Tiger Woods. Your background is the game, you make your living in it. I don't, but I look back on how I was brought up in it and the roots and seeds that were planted in my mind. Roots and seeds that centered around actions, behaviors and respect to the game.

There is a difference.

I can see why comparing Tiger Woods to Curtis Strange. It sounds like while Strange got fined for his antics, Tiger hasn't. Look I don't like what Tiger does on the course with regards to his antics, but what I saw last weekend was a Tiger that lacked his usual passion. I think he's going to need it, to continue to be successful on the golf course.

Heck I use to be a hothead on the course during High School and College matches. As soon as I was on my own, I've toned down my attitude as it was costing me money in the long run (replacing equipment). But I'm not in the same position as Tiger or any other professional player currently.

I'm not a fan of Tiger, but I've come to appreciate his game, so just let him be.