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Old 04-15-2010, 05:26 PM
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Yes, but......Lawyer Ron was burned out by the end of his campaign. Pletcher will err on the side of caution in picking QR's spots to see if he can baby him along until November.
He was? Why, because he ran a dud in a total swamp at Monmouth? Before that, he ran:

3rd in Met Mile, beaten 1 1/2 by easy BC Dirt Mile winner
2nd in Salvator Mile, beaten neck by MTH lover
1st in Whitney, setting a track record
1st in Woodward
2nd in Jockey Club Gold Cup, beaten head by HOY

Clearly, the Oaklawn Handicap did him in.
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:40 PM
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He was? Why, because he ran a dud in a total swamp at Monmouth? Before that, he ran:

3rd in Met Mile, beaten 1 1/2 by easy BC Dirt Mile winner
2nd in Salvator Mile, beaten neck by MTH lover
1st in Whitney, setting a track record
1st in Woodward
2nd in Jockey Club Gold Cup, beaten head by HOY

Clearly, the Oaklawn Handicap did him in.

but only because it was a gr 2...
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:48 PM
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He was? Why, because he ran a dud in a total swamp at Monmouth? Before that, he ran:

3rd in Met Mile, beaten 1 1/2 by easy BC Dirt Mile winner
2nd in Salvator Mile, beaten neck by MTH lover
1st in Whitney, setting a track record
1st in Woodward
2nd in Jockey Club Gold Cup, beaten head by HOY

Clearly, the Oaklawn Handicap did him in.
I didn't say Oaklawn did him in, but he was tailing off his last couple after blowing up in the Whitney/Woodward, at least there is evidence that was the case. Duplicating either of those would have beaten Curlin and probably given him HOY honors.
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I didn't say Oaklawn did him in, but he was tailing off his last couple after blowing up in the Whitney/Woodward, at least there is evidence that was the case. Duplicating either of those would have beaten Curlin and probably given him HOY honors.
He ran a 114 Beyer in the JCGC and lost by a head to the HOY. That's tailing off? He ran a dud in the bog at MTH, that's the only bad race he ran all year. There's no evidence that he tailed off.
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Lawyer Ron's last 2 races were at a mile and a quarter. This was not his best distance. He ran well in the JCGC, until the last 8th.
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He ran a 114 Beyer in the JCGC and lost by a head to the HOY. That's tailing off? He ran a dud in the bog at MTH, that's the only bad race he ran all year. There's no evidence that he tailed off.
What were the two beyers before the jcgc?
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:56 PM
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What were the two beyers before the jcgc?
117 in the Whitney, 119 in the Woodward. The JCGC Beyer was the third-highest of his career, going an eighth further than he was used to.
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i remember the whitney in o7
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