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Old 04-07-2010, 12:02 PM
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Chuck Bednarik? Besides sharing a name with Chuck Simon, how is he a superior all-time player for the Eagles franchise when compared to McNabb?

Reggie White was a great one, but some would argue his best days were with the Packers. McNabb's best days were most likely as an Eagle.

I guess this discussion leads to the obvious conclusion, and that is that the Eagles share similarities with the Phillies pre-2008 in that they have been a mostly moribund franchise for the majority of their existence.
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Chuck Bednarik? Besides sharing a name with Chuck Simon, how is he a superior all-time player for the Eagles franchise when compared to McNabb?

Reggie White was a great one, but some would argue his best days were with the Packers. McNabb's best days were most likely as an Eagle.

I guess this discussion leads to the obvious conclusion, and that is that the Eagles share similarities with the Phillies pre-2008 in that they have been a mostly moribund franchise for the majority of their existence.
The first two paragraphs really show your knowledge for football..

LOL the only thing remotely correct about this post is the last sentence. Though most franchises are crappy for the majority of their existence.
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Chuck Bednarik? Besides sharing a name with Chuck Simon, how is he a superior all-time player for the Eagles franchise when compared to McNabb?

Reggie White was a great one, but some would argue his best days were with the Packers. McNabb's best days were most likely as an Eagle.

I guess this discussion leads to the obvious conclusion, and that is that the Eagles share similarities with the Phillies pre-2008 in that they have been a mostly moribund franchise for the majority of their existence.
You are an Eagles fan and think Chuck Bednarik isnt a superior player to Donovan McNabb?


-He started on both offense and defense (center and linebacker)
-Played 14 seasons, missed 3 games
-10 time All Pro
-In 1999 the sporting news named the top 100 players of all time. Bednarik was ranked 54 and was the top center and the 8th rated linebacker.
-He played on 2 NFL championship teams in Philly with his last second tackle saving the game in 1960
-He was elected to the pro football hall of fame in his first year of eligibility
- Was named to the NFL's 75th anniversary All-time team
- Named to NFL's all decade (50's) team

So he won 2 championships when he was the teams best player, made the all decade team, was ranked as on of the top 50 players in league history 40 years after he played his last game and was elected to the hall of fame in his first try. Yeah mcNabb's career has been better...
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I tried to find the 75th anniversary team put together by the Inquirer that lists Steve Van Buren as the greatest all-time Eagle, but my internet research skills are failing me.
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I tried to find the 75th anniversary team put together by the Inquirer that lists Steve Van Buren as the greatest all-time Eagle, but my internet research skills are failing me.
Him, Bednarik & White would be my top 3..

It looks like you and I were arguing two different things for a moment.. As far as eagles CAREER's go.. McNabb is up there with the best.

I was talking about overall talent / best players, even if they played 1 year for the Eagles.

Also, Reids 65 / 35 passing / running ratio really hurt the team and McNabb. Its easier to play defense when you know what every play will be..
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I'm talking career. I don't count one-hit or one-year wonders when evaluating best players ever on a particular team. If that were the case, Doyle Alexander might rank as the greatest pitcher the Tigers ever had.
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I'm talking career. I don't count one-hit or one-year wonders when evaluating best players ever on a particular team. If that were the case, Doyle Alexander might rank as the greatest pitcher the Tigers ever had.
yeah they are two totally seperate arguments.. Obviously McNabb's career has been much better than Shawn Andrews.

Not too many players get to spend 11 years with the same team though...

If Van Brocklin had played for them for 11 years you would have agreed with me from the start..
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From Brent Celek:

"They did the right thing," Celek said. "They got faith in Kolb, and I'll tell ya what, I think Kolb is gonna be one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL in years to come. I hate hearing people say that we're rebuilding right now cause we got a lot of good players on our team and we're gonna win a lot of games this year.

"The people in the front office and coach Reid have seen Kevin's development over the last three years, and they feel it's time. And I'll tell ya what, a lot of guys on the team feel the exact same way. We're ready to rally behind him and get this thing going."

D-Jax:

"It was time for a change" & "It just feels like some new energy is coming around and guys are pumped up," he said. "I just heard Maclin say that he's ready to get the season started right now. We're fired up and ready to go."

Maclin -

"The guys upstairs will do some stuff to help Kevin and take advantage of his strengths," Maclin said. "But he can make every throw on the field. We saw that and we know he can do that. Me and DeSean can stretch the field. So we're not going to eliminate [the deep pass] from the game plan.

"Kevin knows everybody's assignment on every given play. I'm not saying Donovan didn't. But it's remarkable that a guy who hasn't played that much knows everything, hands-down. I'm really looking forward to working with him."


From Philly.com-

Kolb was told Monday that fans said they would give him a three-game grace period.

"Although you say three," Kolb said, "one's enough for me."





That's MY quarterback!!!!!!!!!
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