Thoughts On NBA at midseason

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

NY does have the space. Plus Jeffries and Curry are expiring next year. They wouldnt have to get too creative to make it work. Chicago has less space than the knicks.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm

Donnie Walsh has done a great job!

Curry and Jefferies wont opt out this year unless they are completely insane.

Chicago is shopping Thomas and will find a taker. They have tried to trade Hinrich forever but want too much.

The difference is that Chicago has Derrick Rose, Joquain Noah, John Salmons, Deng, and Gibson (and hinrich if they cant move him). That is a pretty good bunch of players especially compared to the Knicks returning guys. Jefferies, the italian, Hill, Curry, wilson Chandler and Toney Douglas is not an impressive bunch. Outside of the Italian there is no bonifide NBA starters in that group.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Curry and Jefferies wont opt out this year unless they are completely insane.

Chicago is shopping Thomas and will find a taker. They have tried to trade Hinrich forever but want too much.

The difference is that Chicago has Derrick Rose, Joquain Noah, John Salmons, Deng, and Gibson (and hinrich if they cant move him). That is a pretty good bunch of players especially compared to the Knicks returning guys. Jefferies, the italian, Hill, Curry, wilson Chandler and Toney Douglas is not an impressive bunch. Outside of the Italian there is no bonifide NBA starters in that group.

They don't need to opt out...thats the point. New York could still take both salaries. And just think what they could do the following year when 17 million more goes away.

Miami has a bunch of money. They have no bad contracts and Riley is running the show. They could pick up a bunch of role players to go with beasley, wade and bosh.

In chicago, you named a bunch of players that need the ball. You would have serious chemistry issues. Im not buying chicago.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

They don't need to opt out...thats the point. New York could still take both salaries. And just think what they could do the following year when 17 million more goes away.

Miami has a bunch of money. They have no bad contracts and Riley is running the show. They could pick up a bunch of role players to go with beasley, wade and bosh.

In chicago, you named a bunch of players that need the ball. You would have serious chemistry issues. Im not buying chicago.

NY cant take both salaries. pay those two stiffs and fill out the roster. The cap is going down and that would leave them with like 5 million for 9 guys to fill out the roster. Good luck with that.

Your take on Chicagos players is silly.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

NY cant take both salaries. pay those two stiffs and fill out the roster. The cap is going down and that would leave them with like 5 million for 9 guys to fill out the roster. Good luck with that.

Your take on Chicagos players is silly.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm

How would Chicago make it work if New York can't? Even if you get rid of Hienrich's contract, you are still roughly at the same place New York is. And that is "if".

I think you are misinterpreting my point on chemistry issues in chicago with a potential bosh/wade addition. Rose is not exactly a ball distributing pg and he doesnt shoot 3's. He averages about 18 shots a game. Deng shoots about 15 shots a game. Wade is going to want his 20 and has never been accused of being a good 3 pt shooter and Bosh is going to want his 15...and then you have whoever is else left. Lets say Noah.

So you have a lineup without anyone to distribute the ball. You have no one that consistently knock down a three point shot. And you have 4 guys that are all use to getting 15-20 shots a game. Those are four great pieces indeed but they don't really fit. Hence, chemistry issues.

Miami makes more and more sense the more i think about it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm

How would Chicago make it work if New York can't? Even if you get rid of Hienrich's contract, you are still roughly at the same place New York is. And that is "if".

I think you are misinterpreting my point on chemistry issues in chicago with a potential bosh/wade addition. Rose is not exactly a ball distributing pg and he doesnt shoot 3's. He averages about 18 shots a game. Deng shoots about 15 shots a game. Wade is going to want his 20 and has never been accused of being a good 3 pt shooter and Bosh is going to want his 15...and then you have whoever is else left. Lets say Noah.

So you have a lineup without anyone to distribute the ball. You have no one that consistently knock down a three point shot. And you have 4 guys that are all use to getting 15-20 shots a game. Those are four great pieces indeed but they don't really fit. Hence, chemistry issues.

Miami makes more and more sense the more i think about it.

Wade wouldnt want to play with Derrick Rose? Yeah sure he wouldn't...


So Wade, Rose, Deng, Bosh and Noah wouldnt be a tough line up with Gibson and Slamons and the mid level exception player off the bench? You like Wade, Chalmers, Beasley, Bosh and player to be named later better?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wade wouldnt want to play with Derrick Rose? Yeah sure he wouldn't...


So Wade, Rose, Deng, Bosh and Noah wouldnt be a tough line up with Gibson and Slamons and the mid level exception player off the bench? You like Wade, Chalmers, Beasley, Bosh and player to be named later better?

Instead of being argumentative, try to understand the points presented and address them. Its not like there wouldnt be plenty of talent. My point is that they wouldnt go well together (chemistry!). You have four guys, none of them shoots 3's or distributes the ball and all of them are use to getting 15-20 shots. How does that work unless you have guys that will significantly change their respective game.

In miami, you don't have much money promised out and you can find players that would compliment wade and bosh. Beasley has been playing well lately but you get a nice return in a trade for him if you dont feel like he works. Either way, you have a blank slate with two studs and a bunch of money to fill in the blanks.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Instead of being argumentative, try to understand the points presented and address them. Its not like there wouldnt be plenty of talent. My point is that they wouldnt go well together (chemistry!). You have four guys, none of them shoots 3's or distributes the ball and all of them are use to getting 15-20 shots. How does that work unless you have guys that will significantly change their respective game.

In miami, you don't have much money promised out and you can find players that would compliment wade and bosh. Beasley has been playing well lately but you get a nice return in a trade for him if you dont feel like he works. Either way, you have a blank slate with two studs and a bunch of money to fill in the blanks.

Argumentative? it is hard to understand your logic. Like Derrick Rose wouldn't alter his game if he had Dwayne Wade in the backcourt with him? That Wade wouldnt want to play with a top 5 (and getting better) PG? That there would be a chemistry problem with the players ? Salmons can certainly shoot the three as evidenced by his 41% last year and Deng doesnt take a lot of them but is also over 40% this year, they would have two of the NBA's best rebounders (Noah and Bosh) as well.

A blank slate doesnt means that you can get the right pieces around them. Currently Miami has a slightly below average PG and an enigma signed through next year. The idea that they can fill out the roster with players that would be of the quality of Chicagos with the limited money they would have is a longshot. And that is if you believe you can be a championship calibur team with Mario Chalmers at the point and Micheal Beasley playing 35 minutes at whatever position that it is that he plays.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wade wouldnt want to play with Derrick Rose? Yeah sure he wouldn't...


So Wade, Rose, Deng, Bosh and Noah wouldnt be a tough line up with Gibson and Slamons and the mid level exception player off the bench? You like Wade, Chalmers, Beasley, Bosh and player to be named later better?

I guess Wade and Bosh liked my scenario a little better than yours. No?

[clyde]

^^^^Her scenario is very wet.

[dalakhani]

Anyone who reads this thread can figure out that you were wrong Chuck. Just admit it. No big deal. We are all wrong at times. Instead, you are some how saying that I am wrong when I told you clearly in the thread Bosh and Wade would be in Miami.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I guess Wade and Bosh liked my scenario a little better than yours. No?

Uh no they like $$ more

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cardus

That was a great call, and back in February no less!

Thank you Cardus.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Cardus

That was a great call, and back in February no less!

CardMe's post has been paid for by the Dahla Pud Collection Committee.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wade wouldnt want to play with Derrick Rose? Yeah sure he wouldn't...


So Wade, Rose, Deng, Bosh and Noah wouldnt be a tough line up with Gibson and Slamons and the mid level exception player off the bench? You like Wade, Chalmers, Beasley, Bosh and player to be named later better?

Okay....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Okay....

Did you miss the question mark? That was in response to a question. You are copy and pasting crap together because I never once said i thought they were going to Chicago.

Again point out where I said they would go to Chicago