85 in a 50!!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Maybe? Maybe he just needs some time in the morning. They could have sold him and didnt so Contessa must THINK(whatever that is worth) that he will be ok around 2 turns?

Whoever "They" is F**U**C**K**E**D Up. New York with their 5 horse fields along with the West coast is now irrelevant as far as the Kentucky Derby goes. NYRA apoligists please have at me.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jms62

Whoever "They" is F**U**C**K**E**D Up. New York with their 5 horse fields along with the West coast is now irrelevant as far as the Kentucky Derby goes. NYRA apoligists please have at me.

The Whirlaway was always a huge Ky Derby prep. You're right, it's just not the same.

NT

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The Whirlaway was always a huge Ky Derby prep. You're right, it's just not the same.

NT

First NYRA Apoligist takes a shot.. Think we may hit 6 horses for the next prep Nick? NY Debry Preps are a F**u**c***k**i**n**g Joke but I am sure you know that deep down inside. Unfortunately your job states otherwise and your credibility is basically ZERO that you even argue the point. Lets play Jeopardy Nick....

Answer 2008 Gotham Stakes
Question: What is the last Nyra Triple Crown Prep Race to offer a Superfecta Bet?

The plus side is any winner of a NYRA prep is a throwout May-01-2010

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jms62

First NYRA Apoligist. Takes a shot.. Think we may hit 6 horses for the next prep Nick? NY Debry Preps are a F**u**c***k**i**n**g Joke but I am sure you know that deep down inside. Unfortunately your job states otherwise. Lets play Jeopardy Nick....

Answer 2008 Gotham Stakes
Question: What is the last Nyra Triple Crown Prep Race to offer a Superfecta Bet?

First of all, there was a super in the 2009 Gotham. It paid $351.70.

More importantly, and your frustration with field sizes in stakes lately is understood, but you have to know what you're dealing with in NY this time of year. Does anyone really consider the Count Fleet and Whirlaway Derby preps? If you have a quality 3YO right now you want him tested and that's just not what's going to happen as easily in NY as it will in other places.

NT

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

First of all, there was a super in the 2009 Gotham. It paid $351.70.

More importantly, and your frustration with field sizes in stakes lately is understood, but you have to know what you're dealing with in NY this time of year. Does anyone really consider the Count Fleet and Whirlaway Derby preps? If you have a quality 3YO right now you want him tested and that's just not what's going to happen as easily in NY as it will in other places. NT

You are corrrect aboutthe2009 Gotham, I misread my stats. NYRA Derby Prep races are in ascending order. This shouldn't even be a discussion. You should be able to field a Super Race for EVERY DERBY PREP.

1. Remsen
2. Whirlaway
3.Gotham
4.Wood
5. Withers (I will give you a pass here)

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jms62

No s**h**i**t Dick Tracy that was the Last NON BELMOT NYRA prep race that had a SUPER. NYRA Derby Prep races are in ascending order

1. Remsen
2. Whirlaway
3.Gotham
4.Wood
5. Withers (I will give you a pass here)

The sad part is we really miss Ernie Pags as at least he filled the ****in race.

Wait, so the 2008 Gotham and 2009 Gotham aren't the same? You wrote 2008 in your original post.

NT

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Wait, so the 2008 Gotham and 2009 Gotham aren't the same? You wrote 2008 in your original post.

NT

See my update I was wrong about 2009 and admit it and I am sorry. Will you admit NYRA derby preps are NO LONGER RELEVANT?

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by jms62

Answer 2008 Gotham Stakes
Question: What is the last Nyra Triple Crown Prep Race to offer a Superfecta Bet?

The lack of a super in the last two editions of the Wood had nothing to do with field size. In 2009, it had to do with the fact that Kelly Breen had an entry, thereby prohibiting super wagering under an arcane NY racing rule (even if they had a 12-horse field). Same thing in 2008 due to WinStar entry.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by jms62

First NYRA Apoligist takes a shot.. Think we may hit 6 horses for the next prep Nick? NY Debry Preps are a F**u**c***k**i**n**g Joke but I am sure you know that deep down inside. Unfortunately your job states otherwise and your credibility is basically ZERO that you even argue the point. Lets play Jeopardy Nick....

Answer 2008 Gotham Stakes
Question: What is the last Nyra Triple Crown Prep Race to offer a Superfecta Bet?

The plus side is any winner of a NYRA prep is a throwout May-01-2010

There was full field in the Wood last year or there would have been a super. Since when is the Whirlaway supposed to be a harbinger of great things? The Gothem? Maybe. The Wood? Yes.

Honestly anyone who thinks that a colt that gets a 105 going 6f in Jan at any track is a "Derby prospect" needs to go back and study the history of that fine Derby prospect This Ones For Phil. Is he a very nice colt? Yes. Was he every a likely Derby horse NO.
85 is bred to be a fast sprinter and he is one. I hope he's OK and that they can get him back for the Gotham after which he can veer prompty into races like Bay Shore and the Woody Stephens etc.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Linny

There was full field in the Wood last year or there would have been a super. Since when is the Whirlaway supposed to be a harbinger of great things? The Gothem? Maybe. The Wood? Yes.

Honestly anyone who thinks that a colt that gets a 105 going 6f in Jan at any track is a "Derby prospect" needs to go back and study the history of that fine Derby prospect This Ones For Phil. Is he a very nice colt? Yes. Was he every a likely Derby horse NO.
85 is bred to be a fast sprinter and he is one. I hope he's OK and that they can get him back for the Gotham after which he can veer prompty into races like Bay Shore and the Woody Stephens etc.

[Linny]

Sorry, distractions...there was a full field AND AN ENTRY or there would have been a super.