Cool n Collective

NTamm1215 · #1 01-31-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

I pray you are kidding.

What's wrong with Repole?

NT

randallscott35 · #2 01-31-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What's wrong with Repole?

NT

Read my earlier post. I bet money and won on Cool N Collective at the Big M when I was still in diapers....This horse should be retired. The idea that winning a race at 13 should give the owner some sort of rush.

Patrick333 · #3 01-31-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Read my earlier post. I bet money and won on Cool N Collective at the Big M when I was still in diapers....This horse should be retired. The idea that winning a race at 13 should give the owner some sort of rush.

If the horse is sound and competitive, then let him run.

randallscott35 · #4 01-31-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick333

If the horse is sound and competitive, then let him run.

Bullshit. He's 13, runs in wraps in the winter at AQ for 7500....He is the type that will break down trying. How'd Lava Man fair in the last after a few years off and being so sound frolicking in the field.....85 starts, give me a break.

Rudeboyelvis · #5 01-31-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Bullshit. He's 13, runs in wraps in the winter at AQ for 7500....He is the type that will break down trying. How'd Lava Man fair in the last after a few years off and being so sound frolicking in the field.....85 starts, give me a break.

As an owner of racehorses in NY myself, I can tell you that I know Mr. Repole as well as his stable manager. I know firsthand their commitment to the game and more importantly their commitment to the horses they run.

With all due respect Randall, I appreciate your opinion, but you know not of which you speak.

randallscott35 · #6 01-31-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

As an owner of racehorses in NY myself, I can tell you that I know Mr. Repole as well as his stable manager. I know firsthand their commitment to the game and more importantly their commitment to the horses they run.

With all due respect Randall, I appreciate your opinion, but you know not of which you speak.

Again, the owner card as if that makes your opinion any more valid....Good enough, tell me something. If Cool N Collective weren't a gelding, would he still be racing?

The Indomitable DrugS · #7 01-31-2010, 07:42 PM

if he weren't a gelding - he'd probably be gelded.

He'd be worth about $4.24 as a stallion if he was a full horse.

Rudeboyelvis · #8 01-31-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Again, the owner card as if that makes your opinion any more valid....Good enough, tell me something. If Cool N Collective weren't a gelding, would he still be racing?

I don't know what intact nuts have to do with it. Sorry. The only "owner card" I have is that I know the people involved in the operation and know that your opinion, while entitled, is just that, and unfortunately void of fact.

It really sounds like it needs to be your mission in life to claim every horse in the country you feel shouldn't be on the track and give it a home. Or at least donate as much to the various thoroughbred retirement agencies to satisfy your judgments.

Rudeboyelvis · #9 01-31-2010, 07:51 PM

Or That ^^^^^^^^

phystech · #10 01-31-2010, 08:12 PM

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LOL, ok.. The point I made is that being an owner makes zero difference when discussing this horse and issue. None.

And the point I made has EVERYTHING to do with being an owner. No one has the right to determine when I should retire any horse that's in my barn. I pay the biils, I take the risk so that's on me, not you or anyone that smells like you.

Until such time as you risk your $$ you have no right to tell ANYONE when their horse should be retired. Simple as that.....

Rudeboyelvis · #11 01-31-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick333

If the horse is sound and competitive, then let him run.

That's one owner (not that there aren't many others) you don't need to worry about running broken horses to make a nickle.

NTamm1215 · #12 01-31-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Read my earlier post. I bet money and won on Cool N Collective at the Big M when I was still in diapers....This horse should be retired. The idea that winning a race at 13 should give the owner some sort of rush.

Did he run like a horse that needed to be retired today?

Repole deserves no blame for this at all and in the grand scheme of things, I highly doubt he needs the money that will be earned by Cool N Collective, considering his personal worth. Repole has poured a lot of money into the game already and is the type of person we need to keep the game going. Aribitrarily assuming that a 13YO horse needs to be retired and that his owner is some POS for running him seems like a rush to judgment to me.

NT

randallscott35 · #13 01-31-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Did he run like a horse that needed to be retired today?

Repole deserves no blame for this at all and in the grand scheme of things, I highly doubt he needs the money that will be earned by Cool N Collective, considering his personal worth. Repole has poured a lot of money into the game already and is the type of person we need to keep the game going. Aribitrarily assuming that a 13YO horse needs to be retired and that his owner is some POS for running him seems like a rush to judgment to me.

NT

Ironically if a horse does breakdown, it is too late to retire him at that point....Just don't tell me how much this horse means to you when you run him for 7500 at AQ, just don't...

blackthroatedwind · #14 01-31-2010, 07:24 PM

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Ironically if a horse does breakdown, it is too late to retire him at that point....Just don't tell me how much this horse means to you when you run him for 7500 at AQ, just don't...

I don't understand how you feel it's OK for you to arbitrarily decide which horses should and shouldn't be racing. In other words, because of his age, Cool N Collective, according to you should not be racing, but others get your go ahead?

You do realize how ridiculous this is....right?

randallscott35 · #15 01-31-2010, 07:29 PM

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I don't understand how you feel it's OK for you to arbitrarily decide which horses should and shouldn't be racing. In other words, because of his age, Cool N Collective, according to you should not be racing, but others get your go ahead?

You do realize how ridiculous this is....right?

Andy, Run him all you want...Just don't fill up a DRF article saying how much you love this horse and then run him for that tag at 13....so if he got claimed for 7500, and ran back next week lame as hell for 10k, you'd have no bearing on it b'c you no longer own him....This is common sense, here. Age has less bearing than the back story. Apparently you need to read the DRF article again.

NTamm1215 · #16 01-31-2010, 07:36 PM

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Andy, Run him all you want...Just don't fill up a DRF article saying how much you love this horse and then run him for that tag at 13....so if he got claimed for 7500, and ran back next week lame as hell for 10k, you'd have no bearing on it b'c you no longer own him....This is common sense, here. Age has less bearing than the back story. Apparently you need to read the DRF article again.

Did you read the article? He's re-claimed the horse multiple times. Did it also dawn on you that an article about a 13YO horse running was a nice feature story? If Repole was approached by Dave Grening for the story and agreed to do it should he have said, "Actually I hate the horse, he's expensive and I don't care what happens to him?"

NT

blackthroatedwind · #17 01-31-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Andy, Run him all you want...Just don't fill up a DRF article saying how much you love this horse and then run him for that tag at 13....so if he got claimed for 7500, and ran back next week lame as hell for 10k, you'd have no bearing on it b'c you no longer own him....This is common sense, here. Age has less bearing than the back story. Apparently you need to read the DRF article again.

Sorry, but this is uninformed sanctimonious drivel.

phystech · #18 01-31-2010, 07:26 PM

As an owner in this sport that I am so lucky to be a part of, I really get tired of reading posts from non-owners who feel it is their peragotive to determine when a horse needs to be retired. In watching the race, this horse was real competitive - can't ask for more than that.....

randallscott35 · #19 01-31-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by phystech

As an owner in this sport that I am so lucky to be a part of, I really get tired of reading posts from non-owners who feel it is their peragotive to determine when a horse needs to be retired. In watching the race, this horse was real competitive - can't ask for more than that.....

Yawn, who gives a **** if you own horses, it makes your opinion worth as much as Michael Gill.