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[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by prudery

So the Apple Blossom works out to be roughly a 7 month layoff--which was greatly criticised for Zenyatta last year ...

Zenyatta's 7 month layoff was in one year. RA's layoff, if it will be that long, will be spread over two years. Big difference if the issue is Horse of the Year.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Zenyatta's 7 month layoff was in one year. RA's layoff, if it will be that long, will be spread over two years. Big difference if the issue is Horse of the Year.

I am not sure I get this ...

If Rachel is off from Sept 09 until April or later that is seven months over two years ??

If Zenyatta was off from the BCC of 08-Nov--May 09 roughly aren't they the same ???

Does HOY give you a pass to a longer layoff ??? Really ???

It didn't by a longshot for the other Jackson HOY Curlin ...

[tector]

And PS: did anybody say the 2008 BCC field was great for that surface? I must have missed that....

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by prudery

I am not sure I get this ...

If Rachel is off from Sept 09 until April or later that is seven months over two years ??

If Zenyatta was off from the BCC of 08-Nov--May 09 roughly aren't they the same ???

Does HOY give you a pass to a longer layoff ??? Really ???

It didn't by a longshot for the other Jackson HOY Curlin ...

So RA was to be punished in 2009 for time taken off in 2010? In the debate for 2009 HOY, all that matters is what happened in 2009.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

So RA was to be punished in 2009 for time taken off in 2010? In the debate for 2009 HOY, all that matters is what happened in 2009.

Not at all ...

I simply said Zenyatta was criticised for the leisurely layoff the year before and Rachel will have the same layoff from last year to this year ...

I do not believe EITHER should be criticised for it ...

See the difference ???

[tector]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

So RA was to be punished in 2009 for time taken off in 2010? In the debate for 2009 HOY, all that matters is what happened in 2009.

Read the first quote in my sig--it will tell you all you need to know about these clowns.

I remember when I first started discussing horses with people on the Internet, in the 90s. The people in CA were not allowed to have simulcasting from out-of-state, so because all they knew was CA, CA racing had to be the alpha and omega of racing.

At least they had the "mushroom defense"--they were kept in the dark and fed BS constantly. What excuse these people have, I don't know.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tector

Read the first quote in my sig--it will tell you all you need to know about these clowns.

I remember when I first started discussing horses with people on the Internet, in the 90s. The people in CA were not allowed to have simulcasting from out-of-state, so because all they knew was CA, CA racing had to be the alpha and omega of racing.

At least they had the "mushroom defense"--they were kept in the dark and fed BS constantly. What excuse these people have, I don't know.

But, East coast racing sucked then!

[prudery]

It is a great quote, but it does not apply to me, whom I am sure the reference was to ...

After the Woodward of Sept 09, the remainder of Sept, Oct 09, Nov 09 and Dec09 are of course, all of THAT year ...

The time mentioned off in '10 was to correlate the total time off for Rachel's layoff in relation to Zenyatta's ...

Nothing clownish ..

The original poster and I apparently had some communication problems ...

Nowhere did I mention " punishing " a HOY ..

Wittgenstein is also an interetsing reference--ComStu 250 if I am remembering right ..

I am from New York ...

[tector]

Originally Posted by prudery

It is a great quote, but it does not apply to me, whom I am sure the reference was to ...

After the Woodward of Sept 09, the remainder of Sept, Oct 09, Nov 09 and Dec09 are of course, all of THAT year ...

The time mentioned off in '10 was to correlate the total time off for Rachel's layoff in relation to Zenyatta's ...

Nothing clownish ..

The original poster and I apparently had some communication problems ...

Nowhere did I mention " punishing " a HOY ..

Wittgenstein is also an interetsing reference--ComStu 250 if I am remembering right ..

I am from New York ...

I addressed nothing to you. Whining about layoffs is for dopes, period. Horses are laid off as long as their connections feel is necessary. No one here has the slightest basis to second guess such a decision.

What relevance any of this has to HOY is beyond me.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by tector

I addressed nothing to you. Whining about layoffs is for dopes, period. Horses are laid off as long as their connections feel is necessary. No one here has the slightest basis to second guess such a decision.

What relevance any of this has to HOY is beyond me.

I was responding to Da Truth who apparently found some relevance , I didn't either ...

Fair enough on the response not to me ..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by prudery

I am not sure I get this ...

If Rachel is off from Sept 09 until April or later that is seven months over two years ??

If Zenyatta was off from the BCC of 08-Nov--May 09 roughly aren't they the same ???

Does HOY give you a pass to a longer layoff ??? Really ???

It didn't by a longshot for the other Jackson HOY Curlin ...

considering how many times rachel ran last year, and where, versus how many times zenyatta ran, and where-i don't see how you can compare layoff times.