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Old 06-18-2009, 08:35 PM
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Todd is a "classic American trainer" in that he is very "dirt centric." Panty Raid notwithstanding, his moes to turf (or debuting onturf) usually mean he doesn't think he has a serious dirt stakes horse. Once the triple crown is past, it's open season. Still, when I see him go "first turf" with a horse that was on the Derby Trail I see him as fishing for something the horse can do well.
I don't think Take the Points is a "no-hoper." If he wins or runs well I wont be shocked, but I don't think he's a strong win candidate. Unless Al Khali is a different animal on turf I can't see him as a strong contender. I'd rather look for a lightly raced horse with grass breeding and minimal PP's and a bigger price because he never ran against 'Mousse et al.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:05 AM
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Todd is a "classic American trainer" in that he is very "dirt centric." Panty Raid notwithstanding, his moes to turf (or debuting onturf) usually mean he doesn't think he has a serious dirt stakes horse. Once the triple crown is past, it's open season. Still, when I see him go "first turf" with a horse that was on the Derby Trail I see him as fishing for something the horse can do well.
I don't think Take the Points is a "no-hoper." If he wins or runs well I wont be shocked, but I don't think he's a strong win candidate. Unless Al Khali is a different animal on turf I can't see him as a strong contender. I'd rather look for a lightly raced horse with grass breeding and minimal PP's and a bigger price because he never ran against 'Mousse et al.
You think Panty Raid could run a step on dirt? Has Phil got to you already? She was a terrible dirt horse that lucked into a typically bad Black Eyed Susan.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:39 AM
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PR was a modest, possibly G3 class filly that got lucky with the situation and ran the biggest race of her life in the most important race of her life.
As stated, I tend to think of Todd on turf as more an act of desperation than planning.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:01 AM
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Take the Points not only failed to flatter himself, but Choclate Candy and Mr. Hot Stuff did a number on that reputation as well.

I don't see how Take the Points offers any sort of value at anything less than 8-1, if that.
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