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Sightseek 06-15-2009 06:30 PM

6/20 (CNL): Colonial Turf Cup (G2); All Along (G3)
 
10th (5:21) All Along S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Sales Tax Homeister R B Jr 118 L
2 Kitty Cat Express Vail J S 118 L
3 Tejida Nakatani C S 118 L
4 I Lost My Choo Lezcano J 124 L
5 Icon Project Leparoux J R 118 L
6 Dyna's Lassie Fogelsonger R 118 L
7 Indescribable Desormeaux K J 120 L
8 Precious Princess Lanerie C J 118 L
9 Julia Tuttle Russell S 118 L
10 Winter View Prado E S 124 L
11 First Ascent Garcia Luis 118 L
12 Astrologie (FR) Gomez G K 118 L



11th (6:16) Colonial Turf Cup S. (G2)

1 3/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Al Khali Desormeaux K J 117 L
2 Winning Vow Kaenel K 117 L
3 Rescue Squad Prado E S 117 L
4 Straight Story Lopez C C 117 L
5 Take the Points Gomez G K 117 Blk-Off L
6 Mark S the Cooler Nakatani C S 117 L
7 Final Count Lanerie C J 117 L
8 Battle of Hastings (GB) Baze T C 119 L
9 Dover Street Art (IRE) Delgadillo A 117 L
10 Lime Rickey Leparoux J R 117 L

blackthroatedwind 06-15-2009 06:32 PM

I bet Shug is still kicking himself for passing the Belmont with Rescue Squad.;)

tiggerv 06-15-2009 06:41 PM

I thought they might run Nicanor here but he is entered in a Delaware allowance race Wednesday.

Bobby Fischer 06-15-2009 06:43 PM

is this Saturday?

Sightseek 06-15-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
is this Saturday?

Yes, rest of the card:

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbR...2009&STYLE=EQB

philcski 06-15-2009 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I believe those are the definition of "full fields".

hockey2315 06-15-2009 07:35 PM

Oh god. A Wolfson shipper and an Alan Goldberg horse in back-to-back races. Those two for me are like lights to a moth.

blackthroatedwind 06-15-2009 07:52 PM

Lime Rickey.

the_fat_man 06-15-2009 08:10 PM

He beat nothing last out and got a very nice setup but Mark S the Cooler displayed an above average late kick, closing a (relatively) sizable gap in a very short distance, in a race with an accelerating last 1/8th and qtr. I wonder why Bejarano is not making the trip to ride him, however, and wouldn't bet counterfeit money on Nakatani.

As such, though I haven't looked at the race closely, it'll probably be LR for me as well.

hockey2315 06-15-2009 08:13 PM

Lime Rickey is definitely the obvious one, but I'm thinking the full bro to Communique might have some more room for improvement.

VOL JACK 06-15-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Lime Rickey is definitely the obvious one, but I'm thinking the full bro to Communique might have some more room for improvement.

Why is this a positive.

blackthroatedwind 06-15-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
How is this a positive.


FTFY.

Bobby Fischer 06-15-2009 09:14 PM

did Keeneland stop showing free REPLAYS ?

help me out here:
http://ww2.keeneland.com/racing/frames/replay.aspx

"Keeneland's 'Replays' and 'Video Charts' will remain available on RaceReplays.com subscription site. "

I've clicked it back and forth a few hundred times, I can't be missing something??:confused:

by remain available, apparently these assholes mean remain available for a fee. Which isn't remaining **** because they were complimentary a few months ago. Weird to see a site/organization like Keeneland who has been so progressive, take this route for racereplay. I actually didn't notice this regression/degeneration when it first took place because I had a 3 month plan with RaceReplays which we are basically forced to do during the Gulfstream meet.

If I am not just missing something, pretty lame Keeneland, pretty Lame


Obviously Rescue Squad is worth looking at in his last two races to determine his quality.

hockey2315 06-15-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Why is this a positive.

Just pointing it out as a way to describe the horse, not really my reason for liking him. But I certainly don't think it's a negative. . .

NTamm1215 06-15-2009 09:19 PM

I'm glad Pletcher put Take the Points in to suck up money.

NT

Bobby Fischer 06-15-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I'm glad Pletcher put Take the Points in to suck up money.

NT

the 1st key to betting the race is whether or not Lime Rickey is given a low morning line. He isn't a superstar and though I've yet to watch his Alwn1x (thankfully NYRA and Calracing provide this service to the customer :tro:), he hasn't been good enough in the past that you can't play against him at low odds.
With an evenly spread ML I would start leaning toward passing the race. Maybe still look at the video and see if I can narrow it to a group to use in multi-race exotics

A number of interesting horses;
Battle of Hastings, Rescue Squad, Mark S,Straight Story,Final Count are all worth a thorough video review. Any of these could possibly be used with Take The Points.

Take The Points is the one known commodity (from my perspective) who would be prominent on any coverage play designed to beat a low-odds Lime Rickey. Dropping in class here should help him a lot, and his one poor running line (Preakness) will hopefully help his price considering his poor position in that one.

NTamm1215 06-15-2009 09:32 PM

Note that Pletcher is 1-13 with horses trying turf for the first time in graded stakes races in the last 5 years. Included in that stat are losses at short odds by Ready's Echo, Circular Quay, Advice, and Friendly Island.

His ROI for that 1-13 is $1.00.

Anyone know the one horse who he won with?

NT

hockey2315 06-15-2009 09:34 PM

Panty Raid. . . but I cheated.

SniperSB23 06-15-2009 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Note that Pletcher is 1-13 with horses trying turf for the first time in graded stakes races in the last 5 years. Included in that stat are losses at short odds by Ready's Echo, Circular Quay, Advice, and Friendly Island.

His ROI for that 1-13 is $1.00.

Anyone know the one horse who he won with?

NT

Panty Raid is my guess. Where's a vomit emoticon?

CSC 06-15-2009 09:45 PM

I've seen most of these run and off the top, Battle of Hastings is the most interesting one in my opinion, the distance is the only question with him but If Baze can time his move right he could get the distance, he does have a quick turn of foot if my memory is correct.

P.S Castellano and Bejarano don't seem to be too interested in 500K Sat...MIA


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