General Quarters

Kasept · #1 04-13-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Definitely the feel good story of the Derby. Very happy for him.

In reality, it's a bad story. McCarthy is a prick and a phony. He's cheated everybody involved with the horse, especially Mark Miller whom he has refused to pay his 10% share from the Sam Davis. He also stiffs the barn help and regular exercise rider. The horse himself is a very cool animal that's come a long way thanks to Miller, but McCarthy is not what some have portrayed.

randallscott35 · #2 04-13-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

In reality, it's a bad story. McCarthy is a prick and a phony. He's cheated everybody involved with the horse, especially Mark Miller whom he has refused to pay his 10% share from the Sam Davis. He also stiffs the barn help and regular exercise rider. The horse himself is a very cool animal that's come along way thanks to Miller, but McCarthy is not what some have portrayed.

Yeah I just read the Bloodhorse story about this. And I can't understand how he didn't pay the 10% either if the horse started under his name. Bad job here and I hope the real story gets reported.

Kasept · #3 04-13-2009, 11:21 AM

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Yeah I just read the Bloodhorse story about this. And I can't understand how he didn't pay the 10% either if the horse started under his name. Bad job here and I hope the real story gets reported.

Haskin's piece? He said he was going to write about Miller, who has been a total gentleman about the whole thing. McCarthy showed up at the barn after the Sam Davis and said he was taking the horse away and why should Miller get to win a Gr. III when McCarthy hadn't won one listed as trainer.

Everyone in the racing office at Tampa Bay despises McCarthy and knows what a fraud he is. Miller worked day after day all winter getting General Quarters to calm down and accept instruction. Typical that his reward is to get screwed.

blackthroatedwind · #4 04-13-2009, 11:26 AM

Sport of Kings.

PPerfectfan · #5 04-13-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Haskin's piece? He said he was going to write about Miller, who has been a total gentleman about the whole thing. McCarthy showed up at the barn after the Sam Davis and said he was taking the horse away and why should Miller get to win a Gr. III when McCarthy hadn't won one listed as trainer.

Everyone in the racing office at Tampa Bay despises McCarthy and knows what a fraud he is. Miller worked day after day all winter getting General Quarters to calm down and accept instruction. Typical that his reward is to get screwed.

Well ya know what they say, No good deed goes unpunished!

I really hate to hear that too.

brianwspencer · #6 04-13-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Haskin's piece? He said he was going to write about Miller, who has been a total gentleman about the whole thing. McCarthy showed up at the barn after the Sam Davis and said he was taking the horse away and why should Miller get to win a Gr. III when McCarthy hadn't won one listed as trainer.

Everyone in the racing office at Tampa Bay despises McCarthy and knows what a fraud he is. Miller worked day after day all winter getting General Quarters to calm down and accept instruction. Typical that his reward is to get screwed.

For lack of a more pleasant or articulate way of saying it -- what a little $hit.

Kasept · #7 04-13-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yeah I just read the Bloodhorse story about this. And I can't understand how he didn't pay the 10% either if the horse started under his name. Bad job here and I hope the real story gets reported.

The stewards at TBD said there was nothing they can do to get Miller paid. Pathetic.

randallscott35 · #8 04-13-2009, 11:28 AM

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The stewards at TBD said there was nothing they can do to get Miller paid.

That's crazy. So trainers can just get stiffed with no recourse?

Sightseek · #9 04-13-2009, 12:00 PM

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The stewards at TBD said there was nothing they can do to get Miller paid. Pathetic.

He can't file a lien or Judgment in Court?

Danzig · #10 04-13-2009, 12:35 PM

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He can't file a lien or Judgment in Court?

probably if he has any kind of legit contract/case. altho quite often a verbal agreement is airtight. or he might just say 'lesson learned' and move on. still a shame tho.

MisterB · #11 04-13-2009, 01:54 PM

What happened to the Pat Reynolds thread

Left Bank · #12 04-13-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

The stewards at TBD said there was nothing they can do to get Miller paid. Pathetic.

I would think if Miller was listed as the trainer on record for the race,the money should have been paid to his account,shouldn't it??Or are they at the mercy of the owner?
If he is not paid,it will sure look ugly for McCarthy when word gets around like it is.

Cannon Shell · #13 04-13-2009, 04:41 PM

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I would think if Miller was listed as the trainer on record for the race,the money should have been paid to his account,shouldn't it??Or are they at the mercy of the owner?
If he is not paid,it will sure look ugly for McCarthy when word gets around like it is.

Only NJ to my knowledge takes the trainers % out.

Cannon Shell · #14 04-13-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

The stewards at TBD said there was nothing they can do to get Miller paid. Pathetic.

That is completely not true. They simply dont WANT to get involved.

Ironically enough it is like Ken Ramsey still owns the horse...

Kasept · #15 04-13-2009, 05:16 PM

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That is completely not true. They simply dont WANT to get involved.

Ironically enough it is like Ken Ramsey still owns the horse...

!!!

EXACTLY what I said in the opening today...!

Danzig · #16 04-13-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

In reality, it's a bad story. McCarthy is a prick and a phony. He's cheated everybody involved with the horse, especially Mark Miller whom he has refused to pay his 10% share from the Sam Davis. He also stiffs the barn help and regular exercise rider. The horse himself is a very cool animal that's come a long way thanks to Miller, but McCarthy is not what some have portrayed.

too bad that some of the better horses are owned by unsavory hard to root for characters.

sometimes good things happen to bad people-and vice versa.

blackthroatedwind · #17 04-13-2009, 11:40 AM

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too bad that some of the better horses are owned by unsavory hard to root for characters.

sometimes good things happen to bad people-and vice versa.

It's just a microcosm of life. The racetrack is not perceptively different from any other business.

The Indomitable DrugS · #18 04-13-2009, 11:51 AM

McCarthy's career training record is now 14-for-237 with most of those wins coming at Turfway Park.

randallscott35 · #19 04-13-2009, 11:55 AM

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McCarthy's career training record is now 14-for-237 with most of those wins coming at Turfway Park.

What's his ROI?

The Indomitable DrugS · #20 04-13-2009, 11:57 AM

$1.24 on every $2 - that includes the Blue Grass win.

I bet very few trainers have ever had their 14th career training victory come in the Blue Grass Stakes.