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Old 10-25-2008, 12:30 AM
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:30 AM
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Well, the smart ass remarks may have had something to do with your first post......



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Hello, Horseplayers
Why Is It Every, Horse Handicapper,pro Or Just A
Week-end Player,not A Vocation Two Them, Hooked On This Madd-
Ening Trend Towards Pick 4 Pick 6 Hi 5, Exotics? I Remember The
Basic Drf Form From The 1970,s Where What You Had Was Basic In- Fo And You Used Your Art Form Of How A Horse Was Coming Into A
Race, Speed Rate Variant Purse, And And Position. Now We All
Know That If You Play A Horse That Is Outclassed,wrong Distance
Or Carrying To Much Weight For His Ability That Is Your Fault.
However Form Can Be Fickle And Not Your Fault
Somedays The Horse Just Does,nt Feel Giving His Best, Maybe His
Planets Are Out Of Line, Ha! Now The Form Has All Of This Off
Track Stats, Trainers/jockey Stats And A Host Of Others. I Listen
To The Pros And They Now With This Worthless Info They Find
Something Good About Every Horse In The Race. Back To The Ex-
Otics,now They Are Are Picking 4-5 Horses To Spread And When
They Lose The Bet, They Will Say Did,nt I Talk About That 15- 1
Winner? Well They Touted Every Horse In The Race Go Figure.
I,ve Watched Good Art-form Handicappers Who
Were Selective And Money Managers, Go To This Spreading Of
Bets In Exotics, They Now Have No Confidence In Their Single
Overlay Play, Through The Unplayable Races In Exotis They Have Picked Up Bad Habits, But The Saddest Of All They Have Lost The
Art-form. Know What,s Guys Are Asking Me Who I Like In These
Races That Only God Could Pick, They Were Pitch Races In An
Era Long Gone, Who Do I Like In That Maiden Clm, You Got To Be Kidding Me Sdj-ky


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Old 10-25-2008, 12:44 AM
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Well, the smart ass remarks may have had something to do with your first post......







Best of luck tomorrow.
I was posting a general opinion on many of my beliefs not a personal attack toward anyone specific, if anyone took it that way then I was wrong. however I did walk into the room and make an impression, now I don't expect you or any one to like me but I do expect to be talked to like a human being like i talk to most others unless they get smart wth the nam calling. For instance I made the comment on the Euros, well what a mistake that was. Not one person ask me why, instead they started the name calling like idiot and so on.
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Old 10-25-2008, 05:32 AM
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I wonder when one of these Lion Heart's is gunna break through in a 2 turn stakes. You know it's gotta happen. Horse gotta fck with people's heads one last time. When they do it, they'll probably be going side to side in the stretch(like a downhill skier,) and somebody will have to take up to avoid them.

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Old 10-25-2008, 06:42 AM
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I was posting a general opinion on many of my beliefs not a personal attack toward anyone specific, if anyone took it that way then I was wrong. however I did walk into the room and make an impression, now I don't expect you or any one to like me but I do expect to be talked to like a human being like i talk to most others unless they get smart wth the nam calling. For instance I made the comment on the Euros, well what a mistake that was. Not one person ask me why, instead they started the name calling like idiot and so on.
I've only been on the blog for 6 to 8 months and I do hope you are not surprised by the judgement. Steve tried to provide some support here earlier in this thread. And his erasing of a "ridiculous post" was something I am sure he does but I haven't seen before. I was disappointed with his in response to an earlier remark by BTW but this is like a Locker Room. If you put a horse up there that a select group of guys on this blog don't have, you'll be nailed. They won't ask you what your reasoning is for a certain horse, some just assume a position of "I know best" and attempt to discredit you. I don't venture in that direction any longer. After all, this IS just horse racing. We aren't determining how to resolve the economy or where the next nuclear bomb should go. Well this is enough time on this. I have to get ready to head out to one of the most beautiful tracks I've ever seen and see some of the greatest horses run their hearts-out for us. Aside from what folks on the blog say, Santa Anita is gorgeous and the horses are getting over the pro-ride very well. While Ventura was astounding to see in her rocket of a stretch run, Zenyatta just played with her counterparts. A true champion if there ever was one. I'm already making plans for next year.
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:02 AM
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I don't spent time on Euros becuse no pace line for me to evaluate.
Awesome. That must make handicapping easier. Just draw a line through any horse that has not run in NA. I'll have to try that to streamline my process.
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:31 AM
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If you put a horse up there that a select group of guys on this blog don't have, you'll be nailed. They won't ask you what your reasoning is for a certain horse, some just assume a position of "I know best" and attempt to discredit you.
This is completely wrong. Putting up a list of horses with no explanation or reasoning and having no history of picking winners will get you nailed. An intelligent post with reasons for your picks will not get you nailed. There are some incredibly great handicappers here. If one of them questions your picks, I would advise having an intelligent conversation with that person and you may learn something. I know I have seen certain people's opinions here and have gone back and reassessed races. They may have seen something in their research that you completely missed. Hanging on to your picks like they are the last morsel of food on earth and snarling like a dog at anybody that disagrees with them, will get you nailed. Posting your locks before the race is drawn will get you nailed.

It is like a locker room but you can earn respect by treating others with respect. Ignore the taunts.

Another piece of advice. If you start a thread posting your picks, starting another thread to taunt others (or pat yourself on the back) because your original thread was correct, is going to open the floodgates.

If you are going to post names or numbers, there is usually a daily thread for the major tracks to post your plays.

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Old 10-25-2008, 08:10 AM
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Awesome. That must make handicapping easier. Just draw a line through any horse that has not run in NA. I'll have to try that to streamline my process.
I pass races where a horse has no NA pp's but on BC I will play because it's once a year, and I play very moderate.
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Old 10-25-2008, 08:18 AM
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This is completely wrong. Putting up a list of horses with no explanation or reasoning and having no history of picking winners will get you nailed. An intelligent post with reasons for your picks will not get you nailed. There are some incredibly great handicappers here. If one of them questions your picks, I would advise having an intelligent conversation with that person and you may learn something. I know I have seen certain people's opinions here and have gone back and reassessed races. They may have seen something in their research that you completely missed. Hanging on to your picks like they are the last morsel of food on earth and snarling like a dog at anybody that disagrees with them, will get you nailed. Posting your locks before the race is drawn will get you nailed.

It is like a locker room but you can earn respect by treating others with respect. Ignore the taunts.

Another piece of advice. If you start a thread posting your picks, starting another thread to taunt others (or pat yourself on the back) because your original thread was correct, is going to open the floodgates.

If you are going to post names or numbers, there is usually a daily thread for the major tracks to post your plays.

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This blog has a selection thread, I will post my selections like anyone else. I,m not as well versed, knowledgeble, as many on this blog, if my picks do not interest anyone then they can scroll pass my posts It's more of an intertainment move than trying to say or impress anyone. This is a blog for anyone pro or novice.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:03 AM
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This blog has a selection thread, I will post my selections like anyone else. I,m not as well versed, knowledgeble, as many on this blog, if my picks do not interest anyone then they can scroll pass my posts It's more of an intertainment move than trying to say or impress anyone. This is a blog for anyone pro or novice.
Carry on.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:36 AM
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There are plenty of horses with Synthetic Track form. Azul Leon got drowned in the Norfolk, against quite a few in this field, and has all the obvious earmarks of a closing sprinter. What made him interesting to you? So Sing baby Sing won on Polytrack at Keeneland. That's a different surface....why is it better than the ones with experience on THIS synthetic surface? Does it not bother you that Red Rocks was scratched out of the Sword Dancer and has enormous gaps in his works since his last race.....which was 3 1/2 months ago?
I like Azul leon , he was beaten 5 lengths from 2 hole. I think he will be able to stay midtrack from 5 hole and not get stuck inside. He is 1-2 in graded stakes in cal. He has room to improve like the other 2 yr olds. in race at a decent price. I like closers from mid pack.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:39 AM
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This is a message board.....not a blog. Why is that so hard?
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:43 AM
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OMG.. This is a message board, not a blog. Not blog. Not blog. Not blog. Not blog. Not blog.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:44 AM
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RE: "Free picks to all my buddies"

Since I am not one of your buddies, I want to apologize for looking at your picks.....how much do I owe you?

I feel really bad about sneaking a peek, and for that, I promise not to use any of them....

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Old 10-25-2008, 09:46 AM
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This is a message board.....not a blog. Why is that so hard?
I don't know what the difference is can you explain?
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By the way, all of this whining is absurd. You can't come on here telling people what to do without any reasoning, acting like you're doing everyone a favor by dictating random picks to us, talking down to people like your handicapping is the word of God when you can barely type coherently, and expect there to be no blowback. If you have such thin skin, then change your dictatorial "listen to me or else" and vindictive "I told you so" approach, because it obviously turns people off.

There is great handicapping discussion conducted here daily, so all of this "no one wants to listen to any picks other than their own" is petulant nonsense. I'm sorry if your feelings have been hurt, Ron, but I think that's a totally unfair mischaracterization of a place that has helped tons of people (myself included) with their 'capping philosophies and habits.
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I don't know what the difference is can you explain?
Generally speaking..

Blog: One or a handful of dorks posting entries/articles on one site, on which people can leave comments in a separate section. Ideas/topics created by the blog's writer. Can be classified as journalism when done well.

Message Board: Thousands of dorks simultaneously posting thousands of threads and replying to each other on one site. Ideas/topics created by anyone. Never mistaken for journalism.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:04 AM
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Blog: One or a handful of dorks posting entries/articles on one site, on which people can leave comments in a separate section. Can be classified as journalism when done well.

Message Board: Thousands of dorks simultaneously posting thousands of threads and replying to each other on one site. Never mistaken for journalism.
If you didn't steal that from Wikopedia then you should print it there.
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There is great handicapping discussion conducted here daily, so all of this "no one wants to listen to any picks other than their own" is petulant nonsense.
Actually, he's correct here. Why in the world would anyone WITH an OPINION care about HIS opinion? The dude's on IGGY for a reason. He's illiterate and his opinion is worthless. Perfect combination for posting. HE MUST BE HEARD.
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By the way, all of this whining is absurd. You can't come on here telling people what to do without any reasoning, acting like you're doing everyone a favor by dictating random picks to us, talking down to people like your handicapping is the word of God when you can barely type coherently, and expect there to be no blowback. If you have such thin skin, then change your dictatorial "listen to me or else" and vindictive "I told you so" approach, because it obviously turns people off.

There is great handicapping discussion conducted here daily, so all of this "no one wants to listen to any picks other than their own" is petulant nonsense. I'm sorry if your feelings have been hurt, Ron, but I think that's a totally unfair mischaracterization of a place that has helped tons of people (myself included) with their 'capping philosophies and habits.
Well said.
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