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Old 10-24-2008, 11:59 PM
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that's the first fair and intelligent question i've received thx
well if you look you see I,ve pick horses who have run well at dmr hol osa, such as zappa cal flag, or at woodbime on syn trk. Now red rocks is a euro however he ran here and beat curlin on grass this summer. also horses who ran well at kee on syn trk. I don't spent time on Euros becuse no pace line for me to evaluate. Now I first eliminate horses on a few factors and if no pace line to compare what's left i throw them out. On any other day of year i would pass races with no pace lines, however this is BC and I will have fun and bet every race.

There are plenty of horses with Synthetic Track form. Azul Leon got drowned in the Norfolk, against quite a few in this field, and has all the obvious earmarks of a closing sprinter. What made him interesting to you? So Sing baby Sing won on Polytrack at Keeneland. That's a different surface....why is it better than the ones with experience on THIS synthetic surface? Does it not bother you that Red Rocks was scratched out of the Sword Dancer and has enormous gaps in his works since his last race.....which was 3 1/2 months ago?
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:09 AM
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There are plenty of horses with Synthetic Track form. Azul Leon got drowned in the Norfolk, against quite a few in this field, and has all the obvious earmarks of a closing sprinter. What made him interesting to you? So Sing baby Sing won on Polytrack at Keeneland. That's a different surface....why is it better than the ones with experience on THIS synthetic surface? Does it not bother you that Red Rocks was scratched out of the Sword Dancer and has enormous gaps in his works since his last race.....which was 3 1/2 months ago?
I agree in your analysis however i don't get to much into the trip and detail handicapping, because I
don't get to watch to many races and have the time. I,m an otr trk driver and stay out 2-3 weeks at a time then come home for 4 days. I do have a lap top with me at alltimes with wi-fi and try to keep up. So i'm lazy and load info into my horse program and take results and try to pick overlays. It's a hobby and labor of love but I do all right for a part timer
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I agree in your analysis however i don't get to much into the trip and detail handicapping, because I
don't get to watch to many races and have the time. I,m an otr trk driver and stay out 2-3 weeks at a time then come home for 4 days. I do have a lap top with me at alltimes with wi-fi and try to keep up. So i'm lazy and load info into my horse program and take results and try to pick overlays. It's a hobby and labor of love but I do all right for a part timer
also I will say I eyeball the form first and eliminate horses before entering in program, so I really handicap somewhat.
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:14 AM
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That's great. Thanks.

I do wonder, however, given what you just said, how you think it's OK to do the enormous amount of lecturing you have done on this site. I just assumed you were doing it from more of a position of strength.
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:27 AM
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That's great. Thanks.

I do wonder, however, given what you just said, how you think it's OK to do the enormous amount of lecturing you have done on this site. I just assumed you were doing it from more of a position of strength.
That's fair question, I followed the horses for many years and then left it for 20 yrs. now as far as the amount of time you say I do I only have 237 posts in about 1 1/2 yrs. I do post some opinionated subjects that seem to get alot of replies, but end up having to defend myself on personal replies instead of questions like you are asking. Some people on the blog are more interestd in smartass remarks than an civil and heated discussions on horse racing. I'm 56 and will never let some smart jerk call me a name on line for no reason, then I gat mad and become a smart ass like them. well got to work on that
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:30 AM
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Well, the smart ass remarks may have had something to do with your first post......



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Hello, Horseplayers
Why Is It Every, Horse Handicapper,pro Or Just A
Week-end Player,not A Vocation Two Them, Hooked On This Madd-
Ening Trend Towards Pick 4 Pick 6 Hi 5, Exotics? I Remember The
Basic Drf Form From The 1970,s Where What You Had Was Basic In- Fo And You Used Your Art Form Of How A Horse Was Coming Into A
Race, Speed Rate Variant Purse, And And Position. Now We All
Know That If You Play A Horse That Is Outclassed,wrong Distance
Or Carrying To Much Weight For His Ability That Is Your Fault.
However Form Can Be Fickle And Not Your Fault
Somedays The Horse Just Does,nt Feel Giving His Best, Maybe His
Planets Are Out Of Line, Ha! Now The Form Has All Of This Off
Track Stats, Trainers/jockey Stats And A Host Of Others. I Listen
To The Pros And They Now With This Worthless Info They Find
Something Good About Every Horse In The Race. Back To The Ex-
Otics,now They Are Are Picking 4-5 Horses To Spread And When
They Lose The Bet, They Will Say Did,nt I Talk About That 15- 1
Winner? Well They Touted Every Horse In The Race Go Figure.
I,ve Watched Good Art-form Handicappers Who
Were Selective And Money Managers, Go To This Spreading Of
Bets In Exotics, They Now Have No Confidence In Their Single
Overlay Play, Through The Unplayable Races In Exotis They Have Picked Up Bad Habits, But The Saddest Of All They Have Lost The
Art-form. Know What,s Guys Are Asking Me Who I Like In These
Races That Only God Could Pick, They Were Pitch Races In An
Era Long Gone, Who Do I Like In That Maiden Clm, You Got To Be Kidding Me Sdj-ky


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Old 10-25-2008, 12:44 AM
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Well, the smart ass remarks may have had something to do with your first post......







Best of luck tomorrow.
I was posting a general opinion on many of my beliefs not a personal attack toward anyone specific, if anyone took it that way then I was wrong. however I did walk into the room and make an impression, now I don't expect you or any one to like me but I do expect to be talked to like a human being like i talk to most others unless they get smart wth the nam calling. For instance I made the comment on the Euros, well what a mistake that was. Not one person ask me why, instead they started the name calling like idiot and so on.
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:03 PM
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Well, the smart ass remarks may have had something to do with your first post......

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Hello, Horseplayers
Why Is It Every, Horse Handicapper,pro Or Just A
Week-end Player,not A Vocation Two Them, Hooked On This Madd-
Ening Trend Towards Pick 4 Pick 6 Hi 5, Exotics? I Remember The
Basic Drf Form From The 1970,s Where What You Had Was Basic In- Fo And You Used Your Art Form Of How A Horse Was Coming Into A
Race, Speed Rate Variant Purse, And And Position. Now We All
Know That If You Play A Horse That Is Outclassed,wrong Distance
Or Carrying To Much Weight For His Ability That Is Your Fault.
However Form Can Be Fickle And Not Your Fault
Somedays The Horse Just Does,nt Feel Giving His Best, Maybe His
Planets Are Out Of Line, Ha! Now The Form Has All Of This Off
Track Stats, Trainers/jockey Stats And A Host Of Others. I Listen
To The Pros And They Now With This Worthless Info They Find
Something Good About Every Horse In The Race. Back To The Ex-
Otics,now They Are Are Picking 4-5 Horses To Spread And When
They Lose The Bet, They Will Say Did,nt I Talk About That 15- 1
Winner? Well They Touted Every Horse In The Race Go Figure.
I,ve Watched Good Art-form Handicappers Who
Were Selective And Money Managers, Go To This Spreading Of
Bets In Exotics, They Now Have No Confidence In Their Single
Overlay Play, Through The Unplayable Races In Exotis They Have Picked Up Bad Habits, But The Saddest Of All They Have Lost The
Art-form. Know What,s Guys Are Asking Me Who I Like In These
Races That Only God Could Pick, They Were Pitch Races In An
Era Long Gone, Who Do I Like In That Maiden Clm, You Got To Be Kidding Me Sdj-ky







Best of luck tomorrow.
I found it cryptic that the only word in this post that wasn't capitalized is "wrong"

subliminal message or Freudian slip?
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:36 AM
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There are plenty of horses with Synthetic Track form. Azul Leon got drowned in the Norfolk, against quite a few in this field, and has all the obvious earmarks of a closing sprinter. What made him interesting to you? So Sing baby Sing won on Polytrack at Keeneland. That's a different surface....why is it better than the ones with experience on THIS synthetic surface? Does it not bother you that Red Rocks was scratched out of the Sword Dancer and has enormous gaps in his works since his last race.....which was 3 1/2 months ago?
I like Azul leon , he was beaten 5 lengths from 2 hole. I think he will be able to stay midtrack from 5 hole and not get stuck inside. He is 1-2 in graded stakes in cal. He has room to improve like the other 2 yr olds. in race at a decent price. I like closers from mid pack.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:39 AM
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This is a message board.....not a blog. Why is that so hard?
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:46 AM
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This is a message board.....not a blog. Why is that so hard?
I don't know what the difference is can you explain?
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:02 AM
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I don't know what the difference is can you explain?
Generally speaking..

Blog: One or a handful of dorks posting entries/articles on one site, on which people can leave comments in a separate section. Ideas/topics created by the blog's writer. Can be classified as journalism when done well.

Message Board: Thousands of dorks simultaneously posting thousands of threads and replying to each other on one site. Ideas/topics created by anyone. Never mistaken for journalism.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:04 AM
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Blog: One or a handful of dorks posting entries/articles on one site, on which people can leave comments in a separate section. Can be classified as journalism when done well.

Message Board: Thousands of dorks simultaneously posting thousands of threads and replying to each other on one site. Never mistaken for journalism.
If you didn't steal that from Wikopedia then you should print it there.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:05 AM
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Blog: One or a handful of dorks posting entries/articles on one site, on which people can leave comments in a separate section. Can be classified as journalism when done well.

Message Board: Thousands of dorks simultaneously posting thousands of threads and replying to each other on one site. Never mistaken for journalism.
ok thx i got it
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Generally speaking..

Blog: One or a handful of dorks posting entries/articles on one site, on which people can leave comments in a separate section. Ideas/topics created by the blog's writer. Can be classified as journalism when done well.

Message Board: Thousands of dorks simultaneously posting thousands of threads and replying to each other on one site. Ideas/topics created by anyone. Never mistaken for journalism.
Quality work my friend May your handicapping today be as sharp as your literary achievements.
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OMG.. This is a message board, not a blog. Not blog. Not blog. Not blog. Not blog. Not blog.
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