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Timm just make sure you position yourself for the Free Stuff that is coming..along with lower taxes.
That is unless you are outside of the 95%...but even then you should be able to get the free health care. ...and the good news is with a veto proof Congress they will be playing McFadden & Whitehead for every social program possible. You just have to make sure you sign up and get in line. I might even go back to college and get my Doctorate because it might be free! Dr. Geeker..I like the sound of that 
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10-11-2008, 07:52 PM
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I don't think you have to take the free stuff if you don't want to..but then again ..I guess they could pass a law that says you have to. Kind of like making small business people provide health care to all workers..but if you now plan just to be a worker and not a small business owner you are OK.
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10-11-2008, 08:00 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWusOhZpq7w
interesting historical context. this is an ad that the johnson campaign produced but never ran. goldwater had renounced the endosement and they assumed the press would point this out and people were smart enough to understand it was meaningless. they were afraid of a backlash. fast forward 44 years and you have the mccain campaign running ayers as an issue. i don't know if the johnson campaign overestimated our intelligence or mccain's is underestimating it. or maybe johnson's people just calculated they didn't need it. they were romping and that's a big diff with mccain. it still pains me to see a decent man like mccain reduced to this level of debate. it has to be hard for him.
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10-11-2008, 08:23 PM
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He comes from a different generation - they were taught respect for others. I saw it in my Mom & Dad (they passed recently in their 80's) - but now you see the lack of respect for everything and everyone on a daily bases.
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it has to kill a part of him to do it though. he'd have been a great president. i really think both parties nominated the best candidates available. i feel bad he has to go through the kabuki of the next 3 weeks. he deserves better.
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i think too many are worried about mccains age, and his choice of vp has put off the very moderates he needed. there was a very brief discussion about appealing to the base, and getting the far righters to vote for JM. but, i remember back when JM was attempting to get the nomination, and rush limbaugh and others were howling in protest, i think rush at one point even said he wanted folks to vote for hillary, as he didn't want mccain. but now, they want him bad--as they would rather him than a dem, just like i said. mccain should have chosen someone more in line with his moderate views. the righters would vote for him anyway, but he'd have gotten the indys he needed. too late now tho.
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I think it is deeper than that.... He has personal ethics that are lacking in many or most of the present day politicians. As far as Obama - I would say the jury is still out. His words are inspiring - but it will be his actions that will make or break him. Up to now we have very little evidence of his actions. I am willing to give him a chance - but I must say I have reservations.
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Not that I am nearly qualified to run but if I were to I'm sure that every post I have ever posted here or elsewhere would be fair game. I am friends or acquantinces who I am sure would not vet out. I was arrested once for DUI (beat the rap, the cop was so cocky he didnt realize he arrested the designated driver (me) and let the drunks drive my car home). One of my friends from high school was arrested for dealing drugs after we graduated. I havent been to church in years. Hell I have been photograped in public with OJ! All of those things would disqualify me from even being considered from being a candidate and I didnt mention one thing political in nature. One of the things that bothers me about the whole process is that the reality TV world that we live in causes people to vote in a certain manner and hence the parties have to run their campaigns the same manner. I dont blame either candidate for doing whatever they need to win including attack ads and tying the opposition to unsavory characters. Because it works in many cases. And that is all that matters in our socity now. What also bugs me is that so many fall for the bs that these guys pledge. Obama isnt going to 'fix' the economic problems in this country. His 'plan' isnt going to work because there is no plan. He may outline what he wants to do but lets be realistic. The plans ALWAYS change once they get in office and start dealing with reality, not pie in the sky. Mccain's 'plan' isnt any better but he isnt going to win so who cares. Even the local races feature all these promises that you know arent going to be met. The funny thing about Obama is that for a Democratic Presidental candidate he has an huge money advantage over the Republicans. Where do you think most of that money comes from? Special interests of course. His 'change' mantra is just a slogan, not reality. There will be no change because even though the President is the leader, Congressional lifers and the money behind them and the President's war chest still call the shots. Maybe oil companies will suffer and the welfare crowd will thrive but Washington wont work right until term limits for Congress are imposed and people like George Soros and the republican version of him are put under control. The constant barrage of ads needs to be curbed also. We live in the age of information. There are plenty of sources available for candidates to get their message across without the constant questionable information thrown at people all day long. I watched the debate the other night for about 15 minutes and couldnt help but think that if I knew nothing about either man, Obama came across the more votable guy. McCain is old, he looks old and he is not a great public speaker. He stutters and repeats the same words over and over again. I dont know if he would be a great president but McCain simply cant be the best Republican candidate out there.
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It's OK..think of it as musical chairs..just make sure you get to the seat before the other guy. As incentive..think of DALA as the person next to you trying for the seat 
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my only question at this point is how do we get term limits for our congresspeople??? president has limits, many states as well on their state reps, govs, etc. so, how to cut the govt off their own teat? speaking of teat, pelosi wants another economic stimulus package, complete with another tax rebate. we better start working on population growth, so we have enough kids/grandkids to pay for all our bills...
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