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ateamstupid 10-09-2008 10:56 PM

'Kill him'?
 
It's getting pretty disturbing and scary to watch McCain/Palin rallies. Since they've started harping on the Ayers thing, and now that they've mentioned Obama and 'terrorist' in the same sentence, the crazy racists (a significant section of the country) are all coming out of the closet and feeling legitimized. The McCain campaign doesn't seem to care, but I hope they realize how dangerous this is. I understand that they feel as though they have nothing left to throw at Obama, but is one final desperate ploy to win really worth putting your opponent in danger by egging on racist lunatics?

Don't necessarily hold back your attacks, but if you've got any sense of responsibility left, shouldn't you publicly denounce some of these sentiments expressed at your rallies, or at least kick out the people shouting 'kill him!' or yelling racial epithets at black cameramen? When do you begin to feel responsible for spraying gasoline on a controlled wildfire?

Coach Pants 10-09-2008 10:59 PM

:rolleyes:

ateamstupid 10-09-2008 10:59 PM

Let me also say that I don't mean this to be a partisan post, and I really would prefer to stay away from the back-and-forth inanity that bogs down every thread in here.

I'm seriously just pointing out something that's troubling to me.

Coach Pants 10-09-2008 11:00 PM

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

dalakhani 10-09-2008 11:02 PM

I dont have a reply. I secretly hate myself.

ateamstupid 10-09-2008 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I take it you think I'm overreacting?

Hey, I hope I am. I just refuse to underestimate the extent to which racism still exists, as well as how many crazy people we have in this country.

Danzig 10-09-2008 11:13 PM

well..i don't think a racist or crazy can be made more so just because a pol has a rally. by the same token, i wouldn't want support from a nut or a racist. but mccain wants to be voted in about as badly as a person could want anything. he said the gloves would come off, and he's right.

ateamstupid 10-09-2008 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
well..i don't think a racist or crazy can be made more so just because a pol has a rally. by the same token, i wouldn't want support from a nut or a racist. but mccain wants to be voted in about as badly as a person could want anything. he said the gloves would come off, and he's right.

McCain and Palin are egging them on instead of denouncing them. It's dangerous territory.

dalakhani 10-09-2008 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
McCain and Palin are egging them on instead of denouncing them. It's dangerous territory.

are there any links?

Danzig 10-09-2008 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
McCain and Palin are egging them on instead of denouncing them. It's dangerous territory.

they apparently feel they have nothing to lose. it's a shame-but tells you more than you may have already known about them.

i tell you what else is a shame. this is a huge choice imo. so, a couple of rushed debates with limited time to answer, and only the two candidates. wonderful. glad that we go all out to elect a leader. i think everyone should vote for a third party candidate, that would get a lot of attention if barr or nader could get more than a blip on the screen, wouldn't it?

Danzig 10-09-2008 11:29 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100602935.html

ateamstupid 10-09-2008 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
are there any links?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...a-a-terrorist/

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the..._the_roug.html

To be fair, McCain's campaign released a statement saying it "does not condone the inappropriate rhetoric," but that's pretty vague..

ateamstupid 10-09-2008 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
they apparently feel they have nothing to lose. it's a shame-but tells you more than you may have already known about them.

i tell you what else is a shame. this is a huge choice imo. so, a couple of rushed debates with limited time to answer, and only the two candidates. wonderful. glad that we go all out to elect a leader. i think everyone should vote for a third party candidate, that would get a lot of attention if barr or nader could get more than a blip on the screen, wouldn't it?

That's quite the uphill battle, but I agree. Nader's an ass though, I'd vote for Barr or Ron Paul before him.

Danzig 10-09-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
That's quite the uphill battle, but I agree. Nader's an ass though, so I'd rather vote for Barr.

yes, it is a battle. but the two party system is obviously not working. and apparently, after taking one of those 'who should i vote for' quizzes, bob barr is my man. i doubt i could even pick the guy out of a lineup. but i think that's who i'm going to vote for. neither obama or mccain are worthy of my vote imo.

people should not view a third party candidate vote as a wasted vote. if enough did it, it would add up. might not get the guy elected, but it could certainly sound an alarm i would think.

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-10-2008 06:43 AM

I don't know what I want over first, the Breeder's Cup or this election. :zz:

herkhorse 10-10-2008 06:49 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us

SniperSB23 10-10-2008 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
I don't know what I want over first, the Breeder's Cup or this election. :zz:

I just can't wait to see how Zito is going to prep Commentator for the 2010 Breeders Cup.

Coach Pants 10-10-2008 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
McCain and Palin are egging them on instead of denouncing them. It's dangerous territory.

It's dangerous territory if morons react to it and riot. They will be shot.

somerfrost 10-10-2008 01:48 PM

I've said from the beginning that only racism could defeat Obama this election, not saying all McCain supporters are racist, of course not, but with the economy in the toilet and having more and more crap dropped on it every day, an unpopular war and the undeniable links between Bush and McCain...how could McCain win??? The good news, most folks who are racist have long since committed to McCain (hell, they'd line up to vote for George Wallace) so this demagoguery should backfire on McCain/Palin by turning off the undecided folks. I expected McCain to play the race card at some point...hell, he voted against Martin Luther King Day and removing the Confederate flag from the S Carolina capital building...frankly speaking, I don't trust the man regarding racial issues! Palin...she's a mindless attack dog, which I guess makes her an ideal VP candidate for the Republicans...she winks at the camera and cracks jokes. Obama hopefully will call McCain on this rhetoric...and yes, one does share in the responsibility for such crap...perhaps not legally, but certainly morally! Inciting violence, racial hatred, perhaps even worse isn't anywhere in the Constitution...this is vile and hardly the "good judgement" that McCain keeps claiming to possess! I attended a George Wallace rally in Hagerstown , MD way back when...he never directly attacked black folks, he left it to his audience but the message was clear...this is the same crap!!!

MaTH716 10-10-2008 02:00 PM

For anyone who is endorsing Obama. Do you have any questions or at least a little intrigued about his ties in the past? Whether it is Ayers or Wright or anyone else that is being dug up. What are you feelings on the issue?
Any questions about why all his college transcripts are closed?
John Edwards had an affair, and it seems that he has disappeared from the face of the Earth. But you have a guy who is weeks away from being President with some sort of link/ties to a terrorist and a racist minister. Does it intrigue you at least a little bit?


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