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Old 09-09-2008, 07:54 PM
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this is from yesterday, i googled 'barack obama bush tax'. this came up first on the list...an excerpt:

Obama has change of heart about Bush tax cuts as polls favor McCain

By Ross Balano, Midwest Voices Columnist 2008

Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama had a change of heart yesterday about one of his major campaign issues; the Bush Tax Cuts.

The Associated Press quotes Obama as now saying that “he would delay rescinding President Bush's tax cuts on wealthy Americans if he becomes the next president and the economy is in a recession, suggesting such an increase would further hurt the economy.”

Two things struck me about this comment.

First; he uses the term increase. This is the first time I’ve heard him admit that rescinding the Bush cuts would in reality be a tax increase.

Second; he admits that an increase would hurt the economy.

For about as long as he has been running for president, which seems like forever, Obama has been preaching the woes of the Bush Tax Cuts. For those of you in Alma, those are the tax cuts pushed through congress by President Bush that Obama and fellow Democrats claim were “tax breaks for the rich” and are “shrinking the middle class.” Repealing that work of the evil Bush administration was “job one.” So why the change of heart?
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:59 PM
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Dannie...haven't you had wet dreams about me in the day time?


I'd really like to know.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:21 PM
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Dannie...haven't you had wet dreams about me in the day time?


I'd really like to know.
i got rained on all day if that counts.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:24 PM
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:00 PM
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another excerpt:

What about increasing taxes on the wealthy?

“I think we’ve got to take a look and see where the economy is. I mean, the economy is weak right now,” Obama said on “This Week” on ABC. “The news with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, I think, along with the unemployment numbers, indicates that we’re fragile.”


so, a five percent increase really won't hurt? or maybe it would? or maybe he doesn't know, but he wants to pander the same way every other pol on both sides of the aisle says what people want to hear? so much for all this change.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:02 PM
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this is from yesterday, i googled 'barack obama bush tax'. this came up first on the list...an excerpt:

Obama has change of heart about Bush tax cuts as polls favor McCain

By Ross Balano, Midwest Voices Columnist 2008

Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama had a change of heart yesterday about one of his major campaign issues; the Bush Tax Cuts.

The Associated Press quotes Obama as now saying that “he would delay rescinding President Bush's tax cuts on wealthy Americans if he becomes the next president and the economy is in a recession, suggesting such an increase would further hurt the economy.”

Two things struck me about this comment.

First; he uses the term increase. This is the first time I’ve heard him admit that rescinding the Bush cuts would in reality be a tax increase.

Second; he admits that an increase would hurt the economy.

For about as long as he has been running for president, which seems like forever, Obama has been preaching the woes of the Bush Tax Cuts. For those of you in Alma, those are the tax cuts pushed through congress by President Bush that Obama and fellow Democrats claim were “tax breaks for the rich” and are “shrinking the middle class.” Repealing that work of the evil Bush administration was “job one.” So why the change of heart?
Perhaps you might want to find a new source for your "news" unless of course "midwest voices" is the new CNN and perhaps you might even want to post a link.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:18 PM
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Perhaps you might want to find a new source for your "news" unless of course "midwest voices" is the new CNN and perhaps you might even want to post a link.
like i said, i googled and that was first on the list. i thought it was interesting.

and perhaps you can make the freaking rules on posting links when you start your own board, and perhaps you can be condescending to someone else-it doesn't further your arguments.
and perhaps you missed my post in another thread in which i stated i was proabably voting for obama, but i really don't care if you did or not.
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this is from yesterday, i googled 'barack obama bush tax'. this came up first on the list...an excerpt:

Obama has change of heart about Bush tax cuts as polls favor McCain

By Ross Balano, Midwest Voices Columnist 2008

Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama had a change of heart yesterday about one of his major campaign issues; the Bush Tax Cuts.

The Associated Press quotes Obama as now saying that “he would delay rescinding President Bush's tax cuts on wealthy Americans if he becomes the next president and the economy is in a recession, suggesting such an increase would further hurt the economy.”

Two things struck me about this comment.

First; he uses the term increase. This is the first time I’ve heard him admit that rescinding the Bush cuts would in reality be a tax increase.

Second; he admits that an increase would hurt the economy.

For about as long as he has been running for president, which seems like forever, Obama has been preaching the woes of the Bush Tax Cuts. For those of you in Alma, those are the tax cuts pushed through congress by President Bush that Obama and fellow Democrats claim were “tax breaks for the rich” and are “shrinking the middle class.” Repealing that work of the evil Bush administration was “job one.” So why the change of heart?
Probably because of people like yourself that keep putting the interests of the rich ahead of their own best interests. If you live an average lifespan, you'll do just fine getting your money back that you put into social security. They are never gunna touch that program, and it's for the reason you just stated: too many people have already paid into it for too many years to change their benefit levels. Anything they do will effect new payers of social security taxes. If the Dems ever let them change it, they will not let them give you less benefits than someone who is getting Social Security now. That's the Republicans that want to start shorting people on their future checks(after paying into it for many years already.) If you or Tony got sick,and couldn't work, then you would get social security now. You would get it now, and probably nobody else but that program would give a damn about your problems.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:21 PM
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Probably because of people like yourself that keep putting the interests of the rich ahead of their own best interests. If you live an average lifespan, you'll do just fine getting your money back that you put into social security. They are never gunna touch that program, and it's for the reason you just stated: too many people have already paid into it for too many years to change their benefit levels. Anything they do will effect new payers of social security taxes. If the Dems ever let them change it, they will not let them give you less benefits than someone who is getting Social Security now. That's the Republicans that want to start shorting people on their future checks(after paying into it for many years already.)
no, i think i put my best interests ahead of yours, or the rich folks. i work for my money, and i think i can do a better job of saving for retirement than the govt. unlike many, i look to myself to take care of me, not the govt, and not any social programs.
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