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Old 08-18-2006, 11:36 AM
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I'm more impressed with the conformation on a colt or filly myself. I wouldn't buy one with lousy conformation (I don't care what the pedigree says.) That's the problem though... people in the business care more about the "pedigree" and amount of black type than they do with the way the individual looks.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:43 AM
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I would say they are doing it because he sucks
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:52 AM
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The greatest sire of runners in American history ... Bold Ruler ... sired 24% stakes winners.

That's one out of four ... and not all of them were money makers.

Stallions who sire 10-15% stakes winners are considered outstanding ... so you've got at best a one-in-ten chance of getting some money back ... which may or not cover the purchase price and the upkeep.

The only people who make money at the sales are the breeders, the agents, and the auctioneers. The buyers get fleeced.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:45 PM
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The greatest sire of runners in American history ... Bold Ruler ... sired 24% stakes winners.

That's one out of four ... and not all of them were money makers.

Stallions who sire 10-15% stakes winners are considered outstanding ... so you've got at best a one-in-ten chance of getting some money back ... which may or not cover the purchase price and the upkeep.

The only people who make money at the sales are the breeders, the agents, and the auctioneers. The buyers get fleeced.
breeders get 'fleeced' too...for every one that sells for 750K there are a dozen others that won't cover the stud fee.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:47 PM
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breeders get 'fleeced' too...for every one that sells for 750K there are a dozen others that won't cover the stud fee.
Ain't that the truth!
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:10 PM
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biggest equipment change in racing works again..
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:40 PM
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biggest equipment change in racing works again..
Thanks ... I wasn't aware that they put a shadow roll on him.
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:45 PM
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breeders get 'fleeced' too...for every one that sells for 750K there are a dozen others that won't cover the stud fee.
Sorry ... I meant the stud farms ... the syndicates ... the big-name stallion owners ... they almost always come out ahead.

But not the broodmare and yearling owners ... they can take a hosing too.

Although in some cases ... they are one and the same.
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:52 PM
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I'm more impressed with the conformation on a colt or filly myself. I wouldn't buy one with lousy conformation (I don't care what the pedigree says.) That's the problem though... people in the business care more about the "pedigree" and amount of black type than they do with the way the individual looks.
That's exactly how Rex Elsworth started his breeding barn. He found mares with good conformation and didn't care what thier race record was. The same applied to his first stallons and he managed to produce Swaps and a few other good horses.

We might note that his Champions weren't much when they went to the breeding shed. They never really produced much, so I guess you do need some blue blood in there.
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