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Old 08-18-2006, 11:14 AM
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[quote=jackofhearts]If you took time to watch the race, you would notice CHACE CITY took it to this field from pillar to post. He was clearly the best horse, and has been in all of his races.

As for Asmussen, we will see.
Tell me, Oracle80--what caused those Pletcher runners to die in such a short time period, just after all of them upped their highest speed #s by double digits? I don't believe there ever was a real explanation.
Coincidence or bad luck, I'm sure.

Tell me Jackofhearts, of what first hand info do you have about the circumstnaces surrounding these deaths? Do you have the full scoop and story? Or are you just another piece if trash on the internet who knows everything there is to know.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:03 PM
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Tell me Jackofhearts, of what first hand info do you have about the circumstnaces surrounding these deaths? Do you have the full scoop and story? Or are you just another piece if trash on the internet who knows everything there is to know.[/quote]
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I have no first hand knowledge about these mysterious deaths. As far as I can tell, THERE IS NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE or credible explanation for these quick deaths that ALL occured in ONE barn, just after ALL 3 runners had accomplished amazing improvements in form. Pletcher's theory was of a "patch of grass" where these horses might have all grazed, but there never was any substantiation that such "patch of grass" existed. Since things like this are unfashionable and just can't happen at Saratoga, plus the high profile trainer and owners involved, the incident was glossed over. Can you imagine today if these were Asmussen runners?

So--when do you think Mr.Pletcher will serve his suspension?
The evidence supporting the finding has been determined to be factual, while the appeal is only based on sketchy hypotheticals.

And no, sir(?), I don't consider myself an internet "piece of trash" for raising these issues, and take offense at your insulting comments. I have been around this business/game since the early 70's as a gambler, owner, breeder and seller. I have owned graded stakes runners, and bought/sold at Barrett's 2yo and the Keeneland sales.

Are you a typical turf writer, syndicator or horse peddler who's motto is to treat the fan and owner like mushrooms, keeping them in the dark and feeding them "fertilizer"?

Maybe YOU can explain the old Saratoga Pletcher mass murder, or link me to the official NYRA vet determination?
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:14 PM
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I dont know the story of these horses dying. Can someone share the story with me.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:17 PM
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Me too, what is the story on this?

Is it the same stuff that happened to Baffert last year when I believe a poster on the other board described it as "they were dragging another one out of its stall in Baffert's barn this morning (Diamond Omi)?"
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:12 PM
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I as well would love to read more about this situation. Links would be great if anyone has em' handy.
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:22 PM
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Happened about 3-4 years ago, three of his horses died after big efforts within a couple of days of each other, all from some unknown reason. I believe Left Bank died of Colic. Left Bank had just won the Whitney. I believe the other two were fillies, one had just one a Stakes Race. Seems alot of people are curious about their deaths, because they just ran huge efforts and Pletcher is considered to be a "high percentage" or "move up trainer". I don't know for sure if there was something given to them, to encourage those "move up" performances, so I have no opinion on that, but I sure wouldn't go running someone's name through the mud, without proof.
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:24 PM
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Happened about 3-4 years ago, three of his horses died after big efforts within a couple of days of each other, all from some unknown reason. I believe Left Bank died of Colic. Left Bank had just won the Whitney. I believe the other two were fillies, one had just one a Stakes Race. Seems alot of people are curious about their deaths, because they just ran huge efforts and Pletcher is considered to be a "high percentage" or "move up trainer". I don't know for sure if there was something given to them, to encourage those "move up" performances, so I have no opinion on that, but I sure wouldn't go running someone's name through the mud, without proof.
Thanks Point. I remember Left Bank and I actually liked that horse. Forgot about him until now. Wasnt he owned by Tabor and Smith?
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