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Old 05-20-2008, 05:29 PM
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Wow. Excuse me for asking.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:27 PM
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Wow. Excuse me for asking.
He sired a freakin Dubai WC winner!!!
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:28 PM
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He sired a freakin Dubai WC winner!!!
yeah..poor electrocutionist. he was a nice horse.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:37 PM
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Wow. Excuse me for asking.
You are constantly explaining why everyone in racing does everything wrong with their horses while not knowing what became of Red Ransom and Eastern Echo.

It doesn't exactly strengthen your position.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:40 PM
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You are constantly explaining why everyone in racing does everything wrong with their horses while not knowing what became of Red Ransom and Eastern Echo.

It doesn't exactly strengthen your position.
You are amazing to me. I almost always preface my comments with "IMO" and many times, I've clearly stated that so and so trainer or owner obviously knows more about their own horses than I do before saying what I think I'd do with their position as far as I know it.

I have no position. I just look for reaction. Thank you for your usual and expected response.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:42 PM
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You are amazing to me. I almost always preface my comments with "IMO" and many times, I've clearly stated that so and so trainer or owner obviously knows more about their own horses than I do before saying what I think I'd do with their position as far as I know it.

I have no position. I just look for reaction. Thank you for your usual and expected response.

Yes, and we explain to you why and you don't listen and now you have cleared up why you have no understanding of why people do the things they do.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:52 PM
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Yes, and we explain to you why and you don't listen and now you have cleared up why you have no understanding of why people do the things they do.
What you see as no understanding may not be no understanding. Sometimes, it's just doing things different. You criticized me for saying that George Washington should run in the Classic. I said there was nothing to gain by running in the Mile but the potential gain by a good run in the Classic would be just what his owners wanted....a Danehill that can run well on dirt. But you just told me how stupid I was for that. When I suggested that Ghostzapper, when he was returning to the races in 2005, that they try some new and interesting things with him, including a try in the Arlington Million and/or Arc......because coming back and facing the same dirt foes over and over that he had already proven he was better than would be boring, you told me how stupid I was for suggesting that. Yet three years later, you say it's a good idea for Curlin........for exactly the same reasons.

If you like to keep things simple and do them the same way that they have been done for 100 years, that's fine. Not everyone will see it the same way though. And sometimes, it's ok to speak as a fan and suggest things that we'd like to see even though we know that if we were in the position of being the owner or trainer, we wouldn't do those same things.

Again, thank you for your response.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:55 PM
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What you see as no understanding may not be no understanding. Sometimes, it's just doing things different. You criticized me for saying that George Washington should run in the Classic. I said there was nothing to gain by running in the Mile but the potential gain by a good run in the Classic would be just what his owners wanted....a Danehill that can run well on dirt. But you just told me how stupid I was for that. When I suggested that Ghostzapper, when he was returning to the races in 2005, that they try some new and interesting things with him, including a try in the Arlington Million and/or Arc......because coming back and facing the same dirt foes over and over that he had already proven he was better than would be boring, you told me how stupid I was for suggesting that. Yet three years later, you say it's a good idea for Curlin........for exactly the same reasons.

If you like to keep things simple and do them the same way that they have been done for 100 years, that's fine. Not everyone will see it the same way though. And sometimes, it's ok to speak as a fan and suggest things that we'd like to see even though we know that if we were in the position of being the owner or trainer, we wouldn't do those same things.

Again, thank you for your response.

Well, good call on running George Washington in the Classic.

You should spend some time with people who have made money within the game. It would do you a lot of good....and improve your credibility.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:59 PM
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Well, good call on running George Washington in the Classic.

You should spend some time with people who have made money within the game. It would do you a lot of good....and improve your credibility.
Of course. Because you know who I've been around and who I haven't. Hell, you even know what I've made or lost in the game. Remember the other day you told me I don't even bet. Thanks for the advice though. It's my life dream to be creditable in your eyes. Perhaps I'll take heed.

Pretty sad that you would take GW dying and say that's proof that it was a bad call. Guess Barbaro's owners were also idiots for running in the Preakness and Go for Wand's owners should lose their licenses for running in the BC since tragic accidents obviously are the result of bad race placement.
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