Colonial's future in real doubt..

[phystech]

Originally Posted by -BT-

I don't know how Colonial hurts Delware Park, most of the low end horses from CT, LRL, PHL end up at colonial in the summer. It's not like they're taking away awsome OCN1X type horses, the horses racing down there are going after MD10K or 15K claimers. Plus, Delaware Park is on a roll as it is with all those slots.

I'll agree with part of your post, and disagree with other parts.

Delpark is far from on a roll - and I'll assume you were being sarcastic without the smiley. They have trouble filling their fields because a lot of the horses that should be running there are being sucked away by ill-advised turf tries at CNL. And yet, I agree that at certain levels CNL had no affect on Delpark.

In the Mid-Atlantic, I'd say that more than 70% of the horses making turf tries, shouldn't be racing on the grass and are doing so only as a last resort. The old "...well, we've tried him short, long, with blinks, without blinks, - what's left. Hey, how about putting him on the lawn". And I'm guilty of this myself. Those horse would fill fields at Delpark if they stayed on the dirt and ran at a level they should be run at.

Close it and sell it!!

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by phystech

I'll agree with part of your post, and disagree with other parts.

Delpark is far from on a roll - and I'll assume you were being sarcastic without the smiley. They have trouble filling their fields because a lot of the horses that should be running there are being sucked away by ill-advised turf tries at CNL. And yet, I agree that at certain levels CNL had no affect on Delpark.

In the Mid-Atlantic, I'd say that more than 70% of the horses making turf tries, shouldn't be racing on the grass and are doing so only as a last resort. The old "...well, we've tried him short, long, with blinks, without blinks, - what's left. Hey, how about putting him on the lawn". And I'm guilty of this myself. Those horse would fill fields at Delpark if they stayed on the dirt and ran at a level they should be run at.

Close it and sell it!!

From my understanding Delaware has hard time filling and or getting full fields b/c they draw like a week or so prior to race day. That's the only track in the world where a match race doesn't come as a shock to me.
Colonial is what 90% turf? Delaware might run what 2-3 a day in the summer on turf? The only thing i can see you getting upset about is if some N1X or OCN2X horse that goes down to Colonial to try their luck at some type of 50K HCP race just b/c the field is more then likely gonna come up a little softer then say a OC race on the grass at Delaware. Now that PA has got the slots i wouldn't worry too much about the little slice Colonial takes from that track, but rather Philly Park and Penn now a days

-bt-

[phystech]

Originally Posted by -BT-

From my understanding Delaware has hard time filling and or getting full fields b/c they draw like a week or so prior to race day.

Delpark takes entries 3 racedays prior to actual raceday. It may seem like a week if they draw for Sat on Tuesday, but it certainly isn't a "week or so".

Delpark has other issues that keeps their fields lite, including horses being drawn away. Workman's comp, drug testing, trainers being denied stalls, etc keeps their horse population down.

Originally Posted by -BT-

That's the only track in the world where a match race doesn't come as a shock to me.

And it is the only place I've seen a scratched down to three horse field, get cancelled after the card started.

Originally Posted by -BT-

Colonial is what 90% turf? Delaware might run what 2-3 a day in the summer on turf? The only thing i can see you getting upset about

Puh- leeze, no one is getting upset. Just discussing opinions and I'm trying to throw some facts in there for entertainment.

Originally Posted by -BT-

Now that PA has got the slots i wouldn't worry too much about the little slice Colonial takes from that track, but rather Philly Park and Penn now a days

-bt-

Now THAT's something we can agree on. Throw in Delpark's ban on steroids, and you will see even shorter fields this year!!

[TheSpyder]

Wil it open this year. Gotta go once as I love turf racing there and would like to see it once.

Spyder

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Wil it open this year. Gotta go once as I love turf racing there and would like to see it once.

Spyder

I sure hope so I already have my trip lined up for June...

It would be a shame should they close, their 3 year old Turf series has been enjoyable the past few years.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Wil it open this year. Gotta go once as I love turf racing there and would like to see it once.

Spyder

supposed to start june 13th (friday)

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by notyep59

supposed to start june 13th (friday)

sorry, just checked and it's actually june 9th