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Kasept 04-07-2008 09:36 AM
Colonial's future in real doubt..
 
http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-lo...0,662477.story

Will try for 'Instant Racing' game as revenue boost... Housing development a viable option for suburban Richmond tract. Does not look good...

Coach Pants 04-07-2008 09:39 AM
Instant Racing...


I'm at a loss for words.


*cackles*

2 Dollar Bill 04-07-2008 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-lo...0,662477.story

.. Housing development a viable option for suburban Richmond tract. Does not look good...
If you add Shopping Development...... that sure sounds like what happen to Garden State........!

ddthetide 04-07-2008 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-lo...0,662477.story

Will try for 'Instant Racing' game as revenue boost... Housing development a viable option for suburban Richmond tract. Does not look good...
to beautiful a facility to loose that way.... very sad!

deltagulf 04-07-2008 10:49 AM
very sad it looks like another one will bite the dust. went there last year

now glad i did cause progress will take it over.:(

sumitas 04-07-2008 10:51 AM
ooooo, let's go shopping. yippeee.

the_fat_man 04-07-2008 10:57 AM
I don't know much about Colonial because they really don't do much to market themselves.

I do know, however, that they offer quite a few TURF races, and, as I play primarily turf, I'd LOVE to bet on their races. UNFORTUNATELY, I can't get their video (not on CALRACING, and I'm certainly not going to pay to view it).

So, maybe, as a first step, they might consider putting up LIVE, delayed, or replay, video of their races on their website.

If I'd be interested, I'm sure some others would be as well.

A VERY SIMPLE FIRST STEP towards catching up with the times and generating some more revenue. What a novel notion in an industry stuck in the 1950's.

ddthetide 04-07-2008 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I don't know much about Colonial because they really don't do much to market themselves.

I do know, however, that they offer quite a few TURF races, and, as I play primarily turf, I'd LOVE to bet on their races. UNFORTUNATELY, I can't get their video (not on CALRACING, and I'm certainly not going to pay to view it).

So, maybe, as a first step, they might consider putting up LIVE, delayed, or replay, video of their races on their website.

If I'd be interested, I'm sure some others would be as well.

A VERY SIMPLE FIRST STEP towards catching up with the times and generating some more revenue. What a novel notion in an industry stuck in the 1950's.
you can play colonial on xpressbet.

they just celebrated their 10th anniversary last year. we really enjoyed the virginia derby other than it was hotter than hell.

Heels1989 04-07-2008 06:09 PM
Currently, there is a housing/ (2) golf course community adjacent to the track. Otherwise not much there (yet).

Attended the 2006 VA Derby and it was brutally hot that day as well. Hope they find a way to keep the place going.

cmorioles 04-07-2008 06:35 PM
We need less tracks. May as well lose one with little history.

SOREHOOF 04-07-2008 07:57 PM
This is sad. Where is Magma when you need them? You can always sell it off in the future when you need the $$. Opps I guess they need the $$ now. No slots no interested buyers. No one gave a crap about N.Y. racing without the added allure of slots.

Cannon Shell 04-07-2008 08:53 PM
They are bluffing.

GPK 04-07-2008 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Heels1989
Currently, there is a housing/ (2) golf course community adjacent to the track. Otherwise not much there (yet).

Attended the 2006 VA Derby and it was brutally hot that day as well. Hope they find a way to keep the place going.

The Golf Club at Brickshire (Blue Green Management) and Royal New Kent (Tradition Clubs) are the two courses there. Brickshire is the one with the housing community attached to it. Neither course is doing that great. If memory serves me, Brickshire had between 1,400-1,600 lots for sale when they first opened....and they sold all the developer lots. Anything for sale in there now are strictly resales...and Im not real sure how those are performing (slow, I would imagine)

the_fat_man 04-07-2008 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cmorioles
We need less tracks. May as well lose one with little history.
I definitely disagree here. We need as many tracks as possible. That way, we're not held hostage by any of them. Can you imagine if this were 1988, and you were forced to play AQU this winter?

And we can then take advantage of stickout plays at multiple tracks, rather than trying to force plays when there are limited options.

philcski 04-07-2008 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
The Golf Club at Brickshire (Blue Green Management) and Royal New Kent (Tradition Clubs) are the two courses there. Brickshire is the one with the housing community attached to it. Neither course is doing that great. If memory serves me, Brickshire had between 1,400-1,600 lots for sale when they first opened....and they sold all the developer lots. Anything for sale in there now are strictly resales...and Im not real sure how those are performing (slow, I would imagine)
Royal New Kent opened with a lot of fanfare. We played a college tournament there- WAYYYYYY too hard. Toughest course I've ever played, to the point where I was like "this is ridiculous". And this coming from an accomplished player, I can't imagine how un-fun and unfair it would be for an "average" player.

Colonial Downs will find a way to survive, I agree with Chuck that they are bluffing. It's doing much better than it's sister tracks in MD.

Cannon Shell 04-07-2008 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by philcski
Royal New Kent opened with a lot of fanfare. We played a college tournament there- WAYYYYYY too hard. Toughest course I've ever played, to the point where I was like "this is ridiculous". And this coming from an accomplished player, I can't imagine how un-fun and unfair it would be for an "average" player.

Colonial Downs will find a way to survive, I agree with Chuck that they are bluffing. It's doing much better than it's sister tracks in MD.
It is too good of a setup to give up. They dont race that many days, control the OTB system, have no competition in most of the state, and would be selling into the worst real estate market in years. If they could get some kind of slots/quasi slots system in place and include the OTB's with them it will be a gold mine. To just sell to unknown developers seems unlikely but leverage is always nice to have.

GPK 04-07-2008 09:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philcski
Royal New Kent opened with a lot of fanfare. We played a college tournament there- WAYYYYYY too hard. Toughest course I've ever played, to the point where I was like "this is ridiculous". And this coming from an accomplished player, I can't imagine how un-fun and unfair it would be for an "average" player.

Colonial Downs will find a way to survive, I agree with Chuck that they are bluffing. It's doing much better than it's sister tracks in MD.

Not only is it hard...it is a maintanence nightmare. I have played alot of Mike Stranz's (RIP) designed courses. Most are very visually intimidating.

philcski 04-07-2008 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Not only is it hard...it is a maintanence nightmare. I have played alot of Mike Stranz's (RIP) designed courses. Most are very visually intimidating.
I think after Caledonia, which is a GREAT course (tough but not ridiculous), he decided that a course had to be absurdly difficult to be "great". He should have taken a lesson from the top 10 in the nation list... none of those are murderously difficult.

saratogabrit 04-08-2008 04:16 AM
For me the the potential loss of Hollywood Park and 1 Bay Area track within 2 years are bad enough but this closure is possibly even worse, even without much history, because it would take away a track from a region of the country that needs more racetracks not less.


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