Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Triple Crown Topics/Archive..
Reload this Page Graded Stakes Earnings List
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
Page 3 of 4 < 12 3 4 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 04-07-2008, 09:46 AM
XIIPointStables XIIPointStables is offline
Washington Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 858
Default
Awesome update Steve. Thanks!

Quick Edit: What do the horses shaded in green have mean?
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 04-07-2008, 10:11 AM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperSB23
For once I can't say I completely disagree with him. If they were males and you looked at their past performances would they really be any worse than 4th or 5th choice?
True... and I think while in the betting they may not be 4th or 5th choice, in real talent and potential to win the Derby, I think you are on point. Who would be ahead of them besides Pyro, Big Brown, and Colonel John?
__________________
please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 04-07-2008, 10:17 AM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by philcski
True... and I think while in the betting they may not be 4th or 5th choice, in real talent and potential to win the Derby, I think you are on point. Who would be ahead of them besides Pyro, Big Brown, and Colonel John?
Unless someone emerges in the next two weeks I have absolutely no guess who would go off as the 4th choice. Could be any of about 8 different horses.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 04-07-2008, 10:27 AM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Unless someone emerges in the next two weeks I have absolutely no guess who would go off as the 4th choice. Could be any of about 8 different horses.
Right now it would be either War Pass or Tale of Ekati. Both will likely be eclipsed for that spot in the coming week.
__________________
please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 04-07-2008, 10:33 AM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by philcski
Right now it would be either War Pass or Tale of Ekati. Both will likely be eclipsed for that spot in the coming week.
Tale of Ekati is looking better and better to me, although I fear that Saturday might have taken alot out of him, jock was really all over him, I thought he was a Derby horse last year, but then I couldn't understand what Tagg was doing with him. Tagg is probably a top 5 trainer in my opinion. I mean, he knew he had the earnings with this horse, and said, what is the point to have him ready, I'll get him ready in April. Derby will be what, his 4th start this year? Should be fresh, and should also get the trip. I just hope he doesn't get nuts and throw 57 or 58 works into this horse, would love to see some 6f 115 and 5f in 101, nice and relaxed
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 04-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 44,261
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by XIIPointStables
Awesome update Steve. Thanks!

Quick Edit: What do the horses shaded in green have mean?
23 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
24 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $129,000
25 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417
26 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $120,000

Those 4 respresent horses that 'technically' appear within the starting grid should the unlikelies NOT run... But of course all except Atoned will run this weekend and stand pretty good chances to improve their placement on the earnings list.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 04-07-2008, 10:42 AM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
Tale of Ekati is looking better and better to me, although I fear that Saturday might have taken alot out of him, jock was really all over him, I thought he was a Derby horse last year, but then I couldn't understand what Tagg was doing with him. Tagg is probably a top 5 trainer in my opinion. I mean, he knew he had the earnings with this horse, and said, what is the point to have him ready, I'll get him ready in April. Derby will be what, his 4th start this year? Should be fresh, and should also get the trip. I just hope he doesn't get nuts and throw 57 or 58 works into this horse, would love to see some 6f 115 and 5f in 101, nice and relaxed
Actually it'll only be his 3rd start of the year, which until last year was voodoo. Personally, I don't like him at all for the Derby, seeing them come home in 14 seconds was all I had to know about the Wood this year.

His owner is cool as sh*t though, Steve you should try to get him on the show!
__________________
please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 04-07-2008, 11:37 AM
tiggerv's Avatar
tiggerv tiggerv is offline
Fairgrounds
  
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Baby Gorilla
Posts: 1,533
Default
I think Salute the Sarge is going to the Lexington. If he doesn't fall completely on his face I expect they will probably run him in the Derby since the owner seems to be determined to have a Derby horse and Signature Move isn't going.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 04-07-2008, 01:59 PM
Rileyoriley's Avatar
Rileyoriley Rileyoriley is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Snowy Woods
Posts: 4,484
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Scott,

Either way, a Jones-trained filly is in a top spot on the list.. Would be very surprised by Eight Belles though. It's Proud Spell who is the appropriate Derby filly. Will have Larry Jones on ATR today or tomorrow to clarify, but I bet he won't commit to anything until Derby-Oaks Week.

Story on ESPN says Eight Belles is headed for the Oaks.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 04-07-2008, 02:31 PM
whodey17's Avatar
whodey17 whodey17 is offline
Oaklawn
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: indy
Posts: 2,318
Default Who is not going in the Derby
As of today, who in the top 20 will not be running in the Derby?

Thanks in advance
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 04-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default
indian blessing.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 04-07-2008, 02:33 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default
Kodiak Kowboy
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 04-07-2008, 02:34 PM
whodey17's Avatar
whodey17 whodey17 is offline
Oaklawn
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: indy
Posts: 2,318
Default
Are the connections of Proud Spell and Eight Bells considering the Derby?
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 04-07-2008, 02:35 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by whodey17
Are the connections of Proud Spell and Eight Bells considering the Derby?
My guess is one of them winds up in the starting gate based on how eager Porter seems to be to have a Derby starter.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 04-07-2008, 02:51 PM
jcs11204 jcs11204 is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: niskayuna
Posts: 1,861
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
Story on ESPN says Eight Belles is headed for the Oaks.
she should, her last few races were vs small groups, her going against 20 in the derby would be a disaster in my opinion, and she'd be overbet. I think proud spell is the one, battle tested, she could fire big vs the boys.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 04-07-2008, 03:16 PM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
Story on ESPN says Eight Belles is headed for the Oaks.
Let's hope so!
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 04-07-2008, 03:28 PM
GenuineRisk's Avatar
GenuineRisk GenuineRisk is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
  
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,986
Default
Adriano is very unlikely, last I read.
__________________
Gentlemen! We're burning daylight! Riders up! -Bill Murray
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 04-07-2008, 03:30 PM
Hickory Hill Hoff's Avatar
Hickory Hill Hoff Hickory Hill Hoff is offline
Newmarket
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: the "Sand Flats"
Posts: 6,903
Default
Maybe Todd Pletcher
__________________
"Change can be good, but constant change shows no direction"

http://www.hickoryhillhoff.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 04-07-2008, 03:32 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Maybe Todd Pletcher
Would be pretty funny but I'm still hoping Cowboy Cal wins the Blue Grass so people burn money on him come Derby Day.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 04-07-2008, 03:36 PM
whodey17's Avatar
whodey17 whodey17 is offline
Oaklawn
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: indy
Posts: 2,318
Default
I wish I had a wager on Pletcher not having a starter. I wonder what those odds would have been back in Jan.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 3 of 4 < 12 3 4 >

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:10 AM.

Contact Us - Derby Trail Steve Byk Steve’s Notes DT Stables DT Shoppe Gallery Contact Links Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.