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Kasept 03-25-2008 11:06 AM

Graded Stakes Earnings List
 
Fully updated... Red = Derby next start...

Earnings still available..

Lexington:
1. $195k (X)
2. $65k (X) if with existing earning >$65k
3. $32.5k


Graded Stakes Earnings List (04/12/08)

1 War Pass Nick Zito $1,470,000
2 Pyro Steve Asmussen $1,020,000
X Proud Spell Larry Jones $880,000
3 Tale of Ekati Barclay Tagg $738,000
4 Colonel John Eoin Harty $720,000
5 Gayego Paulo Lobo $640,000

6 Big Brown Richard Dutrow $600,000
7 Z Humor Bill Mott $579,000
8 Monba Todd Pletcher $500,000
9 Court Vision Bill Mott $331,872
10 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $329,000

11 Adriano Graham Motion $310,000
12 Recapturetheglory $300,000
13 Smooth Air Benny Stutts $290,000
X Salute the Sarge Eric Guillot $258,940
14 Cool Coal Man Nick Zito $212,767
X Anak Nakal Nick Zito $212,216
15 Eight Belles Larry Jones $210,000

16 Cowboy Cal Todd Pletcher $207,660
X Massive Drama Dale Romans $205,200
17 Visionaire Michael Matz $202,500
18 Big Truck Barclay Tagg $194,500
19 Bob Black Jack James Kasparoff $180,000
20 Denis of Cork David Carroll $165,000

21 Halo Najib Dale Romans $157,996
22 Indian Sun Dan Hendricks $154,000
23 Tomcito Dante Zanelli $151,292 *** (LEX)
24 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $150,000
X El Gato Malo Craig Dollase $145,000
25 Hey Byrn Eddie Plesa $140,000

26 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
27 Coast Guard David Hoffmans $130,000
28 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417
29 Golden Spikes Marty Wolfson $118,000
30 Tres Borrachos Beau Greeley $118,000

31 Golden Yank Gary Thomas 115,000
32 Yankee Bravo Patrick Gallagher $105,000
33 Racecar Rhapsody Ken McPeek $90,871 (LEX)
34 Shediak (FR) Richard Mandella $78,576
35 Kentucky Bear Reade Baker $75,000

36 King's Silver Son Steve Asmussen $60,000
37 Texas Wildcatter Todd Pletcher $53,750
38 Isabull Steve Hobby $50,000
39 Medjool David Hoffmans $47,500
40 Stevil Nick Zito $49,500

41 Cannonball Wesley Ward $18,800
42 Liberty Bull Tom Amoss $18,750
43 Behindatthebar Todd Pletcher $3,000
44 Samba Rooster Bob Baffert $0
45 Big Glen Frank Brothers $0

The Indomitable DrugS 03-25-2008 11:20 AM

A deserving horse like Rock Hard Ten got excluded from the Derby because he was DQ'd from 2nd place in the Santa Anita Derby.

A horse like a Big Brown, Hey Byrn, Face The Cat or even Elisyum Fields (with just 70K) all could find themselves excluded even with a big effort in the Florida Derby if they foul someone.

smuthg 03-25-2008 11:22 AM

Where do the fillies (Country Star and potentially the Larry Jones' duo) rank on this list? Wouldn't Eight Bells be about $60K with County Star and Proud Spell both well over $500k?

Kasept 03-25-2008 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smuthg
Where do the fillies (Country Star and potentially the Larry Jones' duo) rank on this list? Wouldn't Eight Bells be about $60K with County Star and Proud Spell both well over $500k?

Country Star would check in as 3rd with $565k... Don't have Eight Belles and Proud Spell handy, but Proud Spell has to be over $500,000 and Eight Belles maybe $90,000.

cmorioles 03-25-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
A deserving horse like Rock Hard Ten got excluded from the Derby because he was DQ'd from 2nd place in the Santa Anita Derby.

A horse like a Big Brown, Hey Byrn, Face The Cat or even Elisyum Fields (with just 70K) all could find themselves excluded even with a big effort in the Florida Derby if they foul someone.

Why was he "deserving"? They had a year to get him some earnings and didn't do it.

smuthg 03-25-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Country Star would check in as 3rd with $565k... Don't have Eight Belles and Proud Spell handy, but Proud Spell has to be over $500,000 and Eight Belles maybe $90,000.

thanks...

That Delta Jackpot race is just a joke. has anyone in that race even moderately ran well since then?

hockey2315 03-25-2008 12:00 PM

Z Fortune ran 2nd to Pyro but then did nothing in his next start. . . That race is definitely an anti-key race. . .

AeWingnut 03-25-2008 12:18 PM

millionaire rule
 
I thought there used to be a millionaire rule. Any horse that has over a $1 mil in earnings doesn't win the Ky Derby (not counting Street Sense)

cakes44 03-25-2008 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
Z Fortune ran 2nd to Pyro but then did nothing in his next start. . . That race is definitely an anti-key race. . .


Z Humor is the horse from the Delta Jackpot, who also isn't much, but has obviously been mismanaged.

SniperSB23 03-25-2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I thought there used to be a millionaire rule. Any horse that has over a $1 mil in earnings doesn't win the Ky Derby (not counting Street Sense)

Those silly rules are all meant to be broken. I'm sure no one with exactly $123,417 has ever won the Derby. Doesn't mean Blackberry Road can't win it cause of that. He can't win it because he's too slow.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-25-2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
Why was he "deserving"? They had a year to get him some earnings and didn't do it.

He was trained by the hapless Jason Ormen - and was a very late developing horse who didn't make his stakes debut until the Santa Anita Derby.

I say he was deserving because he would have certainly taken more money than any of the horses coming in from So. Cal that year.

lemoncrush 03-25-2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Graded Stakes Earnings List..

BOLD = Top 20
Italics = Derby unlikely

1 War Pass Zito, N. Robert LaPenta $1,320,000
2 Pyro Asmussen, S. Winchell Thoroughbreds $1,020,000
3 Z Humor Mott, W. Zayat Stable, LLC $524,000

4 Kodiak Kowboy Asmussen, S. Vinery & Fox Hill Farm $441,373
5 Turf War Casse, M. Woodford Racing, Bolton & Farish $405,407
6 Georgie Boy Walsh, K. George Schwary $390,000

7 Adriano Motion, G. Courtlandt Farm $310,000

8 Tale of Ekati Tagg, B. Charles Fipke $288,000
9 Colonel John Harty, E. WinStar Farm, LLC $270,000
10 Court Vision Mott, W. IEAH St. & WinStar Farm, LLC $256,872
11 Cool Coal Man Zito, N. Robert LaPenta $212,767
12 Massive Drama Romans, D. Zayat Stable, LLC $205,200

13 Big Truck Tagg, B. Eric Fein $194,500
14 Anak Nakal Zito, N. Four Roses Thoroughbreds $189,716
15 Visionaire Matz, M. Vision Racing & Team Valor $180,000
16 Majestic Warrior Mott, W. Kinsman,Smith,Tabor,Magnier $164,000
17 Halo Najib Romans, D. Zayat Stable, LLC $157,996

18 Denis of Cork Carroll, D. Mr. & Mrs. W. Warren $150,000
19 El Gato Malo Dollase, C. West Point Thoroughbreds $130,000
20 Z Fortune Asmussen, S. Zayat Stable, LLC $129,000
21 Blackberry Road Carroll, D. Dogwood Stable $123,417
22 Golden Yank Thomas, G. Millard Seldin Revocable Trust $115,000


23 Indian Sun Hendricks, D. C. Peacock $104,000
24 Atoned Pletcher, T. Dogwood Stable $100,000
25 Racecar Rhapsody McPeek, K. Jerry Carroll, et al $90,871
26 Smooth Air Stutts, B. Jr. Mount Joy Stable, Inc. $90,000
27 Shediak (FR) O'Neill, D. Triple B Farms $78,576
28 Etched bin Suroor, S. Godolphin $77,180
29 Elysium Fields Tagg, B. Robert Evans $70,000
30 Yankee Bravo Gallagher, P. Harlequin Ranches, et al $60,000
31 King's Silver Son Asmussen, S. M. McCarty $60,000
32 Cowboy Cal Pletcher, T. Stonerside Stable $57,660
33 Texas Wildcatter Pletcher, T. Stonerside Stable $50,000
34 Medjool Hofmans, D. Equine Prep Management $47,500
35 Gayego Lobo, P. Cubanacan Stable $40,000
36 Nikki'sgoldensteed Hess, R. Jr. M. Lomas & G. Spencer $30,000
37 Bob Black Jack Kaparoff, J. J. Harmon & T. Kasparoff $30,000
38 Isabull Hobby, S. JoAnn & Alex Lieblong $30,000
39 Roman Emperor Klesaris, S. Puglisi, Klesaris & Ruby Stable $12,500
40 Stevil Zito, N. Robert LaPenta $12,000
41 Big Brown Dutrow, R. IEAH St. & Paul Pompa $0
42 Fierce Wind Zito, N. Minor Stables $0

I assume you would add Massive Drama to list of "Unlikley for Derby", and would guess at least 3 or 4 others currently in the top 20 won't run on May 3 due to obvious limitations on talent (Turf War, Anak Nakal, etc..). However, some owners just want to get there, regardless of how remote their chances of winning are.

cakes44 03-25-2008 01:07 PM

I wouldn't include any Zayat horse with enough earnings as "unlikely" no matter what the horse has to go through to do it.

hockey2315 03-25-2008 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44
Z Humor is the horse from the Delta Jackpot, who also isn't much, but has obviously been mismanaged.

Ok thanks- I always get those two mixed up

AeWingnut 03-25-2008 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Those silly rules are all meant to be broken. I'm sure no one with exactly $123,417 has ever won the Derby. Doesn't mean Blackberry Road can't win it cause of that. He can't win it because he's too slow.


I imagine they come up with those silly rules for a reason.
not counting Funny Cide (gelding), Barbaro (RAN curse) and Street Sense (BCJC winner) just to name a few.
The logic behind millionaire rule could be something about peaking early. Best horse in November/ February isn't the best in May.

it's not how I play the race. Just remembered the list

RolloTomasi 03-25-2008 10:28 PM

I'm pretty sure Salute The Sarge has nearly $250,000 in graded earnings from last year.

He's nominated to this weekend's San Miguel Stakes at Santa Anita.

ceejay 03-26-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smuthg
thanks...

That Delta Jackpot race is just a joke. has anyone in that race even moderately ran well since then?

Has any Delta Jackpot winner ever done much afterwards?

slotdirt 04-02-2008 04:27 PM

I see Nikki'sgoldensteed listed here, but not on either Bloodhorse or Kentuckyderby.com. Have I missed something?

slotdirt 04-02-2008 04:31 PM

Nevermind, did some quick google research and discovered why.

Dunbar 04-06-2008 07:05 AM

Anyone see an updated list anywhere?

--Dunbar


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