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Old 01-14-2008, 05:52 PM
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Golden Doc A had Indian Blessings on the ropes, and with another few feet would have won the race. If I was a big fan of Indian Blessings that would scare me a little bit.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:07 PM
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Golden Doc A had Indian Blessings on the ropes, and with another few feet would have won the race. If I was a big fan of Indian Blessings that would scare me a little bit.
No she didn't and no she wouldn't have. If the race had been a few more feet, Indian Blessing's rider would have waited a little longer to make his run and saved a little more for the stretch. It's like the 1989 BC Classic. Everyone wanted to say that Easy Goer was closing so strongly on Sunday Silence and in another jump or two, would have passed him. Wrong. If you notice, McCarron was hand riding Sunday Silence. He knew how much he had left under him and how much he needed to have under him. He timed his move to fit the distance of the race he was riding. If the race had been 10f plus 50 yards, both riders might have waited just a little bit longer to make their moves and the results still would have been the same. Riders time their moves and trainers, good ones at least, train their horses to the conditions of the specific race they are in.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:10 PM
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No she didn't and no she wouldn't have. If the race had been a few more feet, Indian Blessing's rider would have waited a little longer to make his run and saved a little more for the stretch. It's like the 1989 BC Classic. Everyone wanted to say that Easy Goer was closing so strongly on Sunday Silence and in another jump or two, would have passed him. Wrong. If you notice, McCarron was hand riding Sunday Silence. He knew how much he had left under him and how much he needed to have under him. He timed his move to fit the distance of the race he was riding. If the race had been 10f plus 50 yards, both riders might have waited just a little bit longer to make their moves and the results still would have been the same. Riders time their moves and trainers, good ones at least, train their horses to the conditions of the specific race they are in.
you honestly think Gomez is that smart and knew he had just enough to win by a few inches????? You really think that he wanted it to be that close??? No way in hell.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:34 PM
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I can't wait to come back to this thread and laugh. This reminds me of the Street Sense talk where the King was adament he had no shot in the Derby. I suppose if you throw enough s hit on the wall some will stick, but geez.
Isn't that what we all do on here? I also said that Curlin might lose the Derby but by the end of the year, there would be no doubt that he was the best 3yo. Sometimes we are right, sometimes we are wrong. No biggie.
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Isn't that what we all do on here? I also said that Curlin might lose the Derby but by the end of the year, there would be no doubt that he was the best 3yo. Sometimes we are right, sometimes we are wrong. No biggie.
Don't sell yourself short! You didn't just say that Curlin might lose the Derby, you said he had no chance to win. Remember? The only horses that had a chance to win were Circular Quay and Notional.
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:16 PM
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Don't sell yourself short! You didn't just say that Curlin might lose the Derby, you said he had no chance to win. Remember? The only horses that had a chance to win were Circular Quay and Notional.
Early, I did. I believe most people's lists changed as we got further along the trail. At the point that I said Circular Quay and Notional, I'm not even sure if Curlin had even made his debut.
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