Not again ....

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Is lidocaine theraputic? If it numbs pain that allows a horse to run through it, when he/she is otherwise unaware of pain that would preclude a horse from giving his/her all, doesn't that make it performance enhancing?

I asked, and I've been told it's a legal drug to have on the vet's truck, it has everyday use and it's cosidered to be therapuetic in nature. I don't know if that's subject to interpretation or not.

I would think that if it wasn't therapeutic, it would have a more severe classification, stronger penalty, fine, etc. and we wouldn't be looking at 15 days or something of the like. Maybe one of the resident vets or trainers can shed light on this.

Eric

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ELA

I asked, and I've been told it's a legal drug to have on the vet's truck, it has everyday use and it's cosidered to be therapuetic in nature. I don't know if that's subject to interpretation or not.

I would think that if it wasn't therapeutic, it would have a more severe classification, stronger penalty, fine, etc. and we wouldn't be looking at 15 days or something of the like. Maybe one of the resident vets or trainers can shed light on this.

Eric

I'm sure many people who have participated on this thread have come into contact with lidocaine at some point. While it could be used as a nerve blocking agent in high doses it is commonly associated with hand lotion and other over the counter pain relieving cremes. Since he got a short suspension I am assuming that the levels found were very low. Steve Penrod, who is about as far away from a 'juice' trainer as there is, served a 30 day suspension in KY a few years ago because his groom bought an over the counter 'aloe' lotion to treat a horses cracked heels. At the time the rules in KY said 30 min for Lidocaine regardless of level even though they knew why it happened.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Pain relieving creams for animals, or for people? Can you name a pain relieving over-the-counter cream for people with lidocaine?

benadryl cream...for bug bites...I could name a bunch but that's just one.

not that I think Contessa or any other trainer is getting his postives from those kinds of contamination.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Can you name a pain relieving over-the-counter cream for people with lidocaine?

Bactine, Lanacane, Solarcaine and practically every aloe based sunburn remedy, ect. there are many.