Not again ....
 

I was looking at the Aqueduct overnights for Wednesday and Thursday. I saw Juan Rodriguez listed as the trainer for a few horses that would typically be Dutrow-trainees. Has Dutrow been suspended again? If so, for what this time and how many times does he get slaps on the wrists before the people in NY make a serious statement about him?

Looks like you slipped right past the powerful Kim Jackson string in with several too Wednesday... :eek:

She's back saddling them for Pinocchio..

That's another story...

More than enough.

Kim Jackson.

Contessa got 15 days for Lidocaine which is legal and used all over the backside. The caveat is that a horse can't be exposed to it for 96 hours prior to a race - apparently every horse, regardless of tolerance, should have zero trace of this in the blood after 96 hours, or they have some sort of a subjective threshhold, I'm not an expert by any stretch -

"In New York State Lidocaine has restricted usage labeling it a Class 2 foreign substance. A horse must have no contact with the Lidocaine substance 96 hours (4 days) prior to post time of the race in which they are entered. Whats interesting, New York State permits the use of topical applications at any time up to race".

So.... it's conceivable that a horse can test positive for it even if said horse had not been treated systemically for it within the guidelines... depends on the horse's own physiology/tolerance, as it could potentially absorb enough topically to be detected in a blood test...Gotta love it, NY.


Not making excuses for him, but it's not exactly a milkshake or EPO, which ARE used to cheat.... Why the hate Steve? :)

Is Kim Jackson, the former Kim Laudati? I know she got married, but I didn't know she took on her husband's name. Anyway, Kim has been back working for him for a while now.

Eric

Did she marry Michael?

No, heard it was Jesse

Not Phil?

as the barn turns....

Didn't know you spoke for him....After reading your post, I doubt he does too.

It's illegal and the trainer is paying the price. I don't know where you got the impression that is was "OK" to purposely break the rules - certainly not from my post.

The only point that was attempting to be debated was the vagueness of the rule, the fact that you can use this medication practically up to post time, (topically) and the crap shoot as to which ones will test positive and which ones won't.

Lidocaine doesn't give anyone any sort of racing advantage, and inadvertant overages happen every day of the week around this country, feel free to ask Nick Zito about it.

If you can't decern the difference between a minor non-perfromance inhancing legal med overage and a blantant violation of controlled substances (EPO doping, Milkshaking, et. al.) then I can see why my post went clearly over your head.

Amen!

you're kidding right? lidocaine is a painkiller....ever had novocaine at the dentist? can't feel anything for hours.....I agree that accidental overages happen, but come on...anyone can see how this drug has potential abuse written all over it, which is why it has mandatory zero test limits.

It's called "pushing the envelope." The same thing happens with the trainers that have all these clenbuterol positives; they are not as dumb as their "we don't understand the rules" statements would lead people to believe.

Over 1100 starts this year, and this is the only infraction. Hardly what any sane person would consider "potential abuse". Pais, you're point is well taken -but the fact of the matter is that there are strings of horses at every track in NY, and teams of vets, vet assistants, etc. tending to them around the clock. Human error happens.

No, this is at least Contessa's second suspension this year. When he was on the bench in July, the assistant's name at the time was Kim Laudati (see discussion above).

I agree but why does it seem to happen over and over again in some of the same barns? surely if it was just 'human error' and it kept happening the caretakers would lose their jobs?

sorry if I can't buy that certain trainers just have staff problems....if that was the case they would have made changes so that they aren't serving multiple suspensions per year.