DMR: PacClas; Mile; O'Brien (Sun.)

[Bobby Fischer]

in the O'Brien Include the two obvious horses, and then I think you have to toss Bordonaro from at least the exacta. I rank Publication and even Absolute Glory higher. The later is not a strong win candidate but merits use in exotics.

[10 pnt move up]

Tiago is scratched, Sherriffs hates the polytrack just as much as baffert.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Tiago is scratched, Sherriffs hates the polytrack just as much as baffert.

he is at 28% (2/7) at DelMar, compared to 21% for the year.
I wonder why he hates it so much?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

he is at 28% (2/7) at DelMar, compared to 21% for the year.
I wonder why he hates it so much?

I have been told he does not think its safe, not any anti speed issue.

5 of those starts were on turf and both wins were. he has some well bred two year olds he wont run until santa anita on the cushion track.

Thats a big field for the Pacific. They are not bailing out giving this to Lava Man. Part of that has to be the surface. Maybe lots of trainers think they got a shot. I think this is good.

We got speed, stalkers, closers... good stuff.

[King Glorious]

I like

Surf Cat
Greg's Gold
Bordonaro

Crossing the Line
Porto Santo
Captain Kurt

Lava Man
Hello Sunday
Awesome Gem

For good measure, bet Bro Lo HEAVY in the 9th.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I have been told he does not think its safe, not any anti speed issue.

5 of those starts were on turf and both wins were. he has some well bred two year olds he wont run until santa anita on the cushion track.

not so...

http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=40314

he's still running his four year old in the race, so it's not safety. really makes no sense to me. he's got a track that favors closers, and a three year old who is a closer. if it was safety, he'd scratch all of them, right? mentions in the article that another horse came back tired (aren't they all tired after a race?) and i guess he wants something a bit easier on tiago. easy to blame it on the track tho, the current whipping boy in cali.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I would take Sun Boat,but would only do it at 6-1 or higher.What will that horse go off at..9/2?

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I would take Sun Boat,but would only do it at 6-1 or higher.What will that horse go off at..9/2?

I think you could have got that if Lava Man had not drawn PP 1.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not so...

http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=40314

he's still running his four year old in the race, so it's not safety. really makes no sense to me. he's got a track that favors closers, and a three year old who is a closer. if it was safety, he'd scratch all of them, right? mentions in the article that another horse came back tired (aren't they all tired after a race?) and i guess he wants something a bit easier on tiago. easy to blame it on the track tho, the current whipping boy in cali.

saying he is "not handling the track" is the same way as saying I have a colt here worth 10 million bucks and I am not about to take a shot on this stuff, ap excellent who is a dog **** horse is worth the risk. He has owners so he still has to run, but can you tell me why he has not run a single two year old, and he has a barn full, and only 2 dirt horses to date?

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

saying he is "not handling the track" is the same way as saying I have a colt here worth 10 million bucks and I am not about to take a shot on this stuff, ap excellent who is a dog **** horse is worth the risk. He has owners so he still has to run, but can you tell me why he has not run a single two year old, and he has a barn full, and only 2 dirt horses to date?

Perhaps because he has a bunch of speed and they will die like dogs? Just like Baffert.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

saying he is "not handling the track" is the same way as saying I have a colt here worth 10 million bucks and I am not about to take a shot on this stuff, ap excellent who is a dog **** horse is worth the risk. He has owners so he still has to run, but can you tell me why he has not run a single two year old, and he has a barn full, and only 2 dirt horses to date?

i was just pointing out that if he thinks it's unsafe, he doesn't think it's too unsafe to run over with ap excellent. as for the others, it's only mid-august. maybe his babies aren't ready yet? what is his usual mode of operation at this time of year with them?

and he didn't say tiago didn't handle it, he said another of his came back tired. i think it has more to do with not wanting to run tiago today against this field, not on that track. especially when it seems the track is more conducive to tiagos running style.
or maybe he thinks he would be so 'tired' after an effort today that he couldn't get him ready for the bc in a couple months. seems to be the prevailing thought process these days regarding three year olds...

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

in the O'Brien Include the two obvious horses, and then I think you have to toss Bordonaro from at least the exacta. I rank Publication and even Absolute Glory higher. The later is not a strong win candidate but merits use in exotics.

After watching the last 2 days races at Del Mar, I think the above opinion is wrong and I have changed my mind. Bordonaro has an opportunity here to run away with it. Speed has been holding well at the sprints and even some of the 8.5 furlong races. Horses have been pulling away and mostly winning or placing without the bunched up, fanning-out that we have come to love in our artificial racing.

The Classic - hard to use this much here at 10 furlongs... not a bad surface for Lava Man thats for sure.