Perfect Drift finishes 2nd

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I have to disagree with you there. If they aren't making ANY money, that means they aren't being competitive. If that were to happen consistently, then I don't think it would be "simply wonderful" to see horses of their quality struggling and finishing off the board in race after race. It would instead be quite sad.
I say as long as they are making decent money, they are competitve....and that is fun to see.

Money isnt the end of all in horse racing. The fact that they horse makes it to the gate is enough for me. It is good for the sport and good for history.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Money isnt the end of all in horse racing. The fact that they horse makes it to the gate is enough for me. It is good for the sport and good for history.

Do you really think it would be good for the sport if - in a year or so - horses like Funny Cide and/or Perfect Drift were dropped into cheap claiming races and still failed to hit the board?
Just "making it to the gate" is not enough. These horses are/were great competitors and deserve more than to be treated like that.
Right now they are (thankfully) still quite competitive so it isn't a problem, but I hope that when their days of being competitive are over, their connections don't disregard what is in their horses' best interest (like you apparently want them to do) and instead know when to retire the horses. I am confident that PD's connections will do right by their horse. I am less confident in FC's owners.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Do you really think it would be good for the sport if - in a year or so - horses like Funny Cide and/or Perfect Drift were dropped into cheap claiming races and still failed to hit the board?
Just "making it to the gate" is not enough. These horses are/were great competitors and deserve more than to be treated like that.
Right now they are (thankfully) still quite competitive so it isn't a problem, but I hope that when their days of being competitive are over, their connections don't disregard what is in their horses' best interest (like you apparently want them to do) and instead know when to retire the horses. I am confident that PD's connections will do right by their horse. I am less confident in FC's owners.

I think it is fabulous that I am able to sit with my son and we can watch Funny Cide race together. He was only 3 when Funny Cide won the Derby. Now we can sit and watch and I can teach him about horse racing. There is much more to racing then how a horse performs on the track. In my opinion, horses like the ones that were metioned should race as long as they are healthy.

[Zaf]

Whodey17,

agree 1000 %

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by whodey17

I think it is fabulous that I am able to sit with my son and we can watch Funny Cide race together. He was only 3 when Funny Cide won the Derby. Now we can sit and watch and I can teach him about horse racing. There is much more to racing then how a horse performs on the track. In my opinion, horses like the ones that were metioned should race as long as they are healthy.

Okay....I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I am certainly glad all three of these guys are still racing RIGHT NOW. The only thing I was disagreeing with you about was when you said all that matters is if they reach the starting gate. I just like these three old geldings too much to ever want to see them run in races where they have no chance....and say "oh well, at least they started." Hopefully it will never come to that.

[Grits]

Some of you make these older guys, particularly Drift, in this thread sound like nothing but plodders. Same old, Same old, some things never change.

If one looked closely at Drift's past performance lines yesterday, they'd see that Murray Johnson brought Drift back similarly from a long layoff. Quite similarly.

I KNEW Drift would be short yesterday. I figured most knew that.

But to dog a horse like this that has made FIVE MILLION DOLLARS in his career on a racetrack-or one like Evening Attire, who has netted close, is a real abomination.

Its as cheap as one can get in this game where armchair opinions are so vital.

I know for a FACT, that there are not two owners in this sport that have, and always will have, the best interest of their horses at heart--than the owners of Drift and Evening Attire.

This sport would elevate itself with more owners having this level of integrity and concern for their horses and the overall condition of the game of horseracing.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Grits

Some of you make these older guys, particularly Drift, in this thread sound like nothing but plodders. Same old, Same old, some things never change.

If one looked closely at Drift's past performance lines yesterday, they'd see that Murray Johnson brought Drift back similarly from a long layoff. Quite similarly.

I KNEW Drift would be short yesterday. I figured most knew that.

But to dog a horse like this that has made FIVE MILLION DOLLARS in his career on a racetrack-or one like Evening Attire, who has netted close, is a real abomination.

Its as cheap as one can get in this game where armchair opinions are so vital.

I know for a FACT, that there are not two owners in this sport that have, and always will have, the best interest of their horses at heart--than the owners of Drift and Evening Attire.

This sport would elevate itself with more owners having this level of integrity and concern for their horses and the overall condition of the game of horseracing.

i just went back thru the entire thread, and still don't see who dogged this horse. or evening attire for that matter.

[Grits]

Miraja2 referred to Drift as "some things never change".

Sorry that you missed that Danzig. But as you often say, everyone's entitled to disagree.

I added Attire because similar has been said, while people tend to second guess owners who are running horses this age. Horrible things have been said at many websites. (I know this for fact, I AM NOT stating what I do not know where these two horses and their respective owners are concerned.)

I suppose if anyone here owned either Drift or Attire they'd not be complaining too much about their career earnings and what has enhanced their bank account's bottom line.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Grits

Some of you make these older guys, particularly Drift, in this thread sound like nothing but plodders. Same old, Same old, some things never change.

If one looked closely at Drift's past performance lines yesterday, they'd see that Murray Johnson brought Drift back similarly from a long layoff. Quite similarly.

I KNEW Drift would be short yesterday. I figured most knew that.

But to dog a horse like this that has made FIVE MILLION DOLLARS in his career on a racetrack-or one like Evening Attire, who has netted close, is a real abomination.

Its as cheap as one can get in this game where armchair opinions are so vital.

I know for a FACT, that there are not two owners in this sport that have, and always will have, the best interest of their horses at heart--than the owners of Drift and Evening Attire.

This sport would elevate itself with more owners having this level of integrity and concern for their horses and the overall condition of the game of horseracing.

grits at least you get it-well said- total lack of respect-they just rip.rip.rip when they get a chance. drift couldnt find a better owner then dr. reed

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Money isnt the end of all in horse racing.

This is a tad naïve I am afraid.