Hard Spun

[MarkyD]

I want to know why he was pulled from the Blue this weekend ?

They seem so worried about the track, but what about SS and GH. If he would get smoked this weekend by them this weekend, then would they really care about surfaces? I just don't understand why not see if your horse can compete witht the big guns. At least most of the other top 10 contenders have faced off against each other at some point over the past 6 months.

Originally Posted by MarkyD

I want to know why he was pulled from the Blue this weekend ?

They seem so worried about the track, but what about SS and GH. If he would get smoked this weekend by them this weekend, then would they really care about surfaces? I just don't understand why not see if your horse can compete witht the big guns. At least most of the other top 10 contenders have faced off against each other at some point over the past 6 months.

If he wins or comes in 2nd, does it really help him? If he wins from the front he is unlikely to duplicate it at 10f. If he loses he doesnt get the lead, then maybe he gets a complex about not being able to get the lead.

I dunno, Im trying to come up with a reason for you and thats the best I can do. It sure doesnt help handicappers any, Id like to see what he can do on the front end of fast fractions..

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by MarkyD

I want to know why he was pulled from the Blue this weekend ?

They seem so worried about the track, but what about SS and GH. If he would get smoked this weekend by them this weekend, then would they really care about surfaces? I just don't understand why not see if your horse can compete witht the big guns. At least most of the other top 10 contenders have faced off against each other at some point over the past 6 months.

I think that they connections didnt want to face SS or GH. HS doesnt need the graded earnings as he is in the Derby. I wouldnt run in the Bluegrass. I would take the 6 weeks off.

[MarkyD]

Found my answer:

As far going into the Derby without having run against a top Derby horse, Jones said, “We may as well just test them right there in the Derby. Even though he was beaten at Oaklawn and didn’t like the racetrack, he still came out of the race with the best Ragozin number of any horse in the race by far. To be honest, I don’t want to sound overconfident, because I’m not. But if this horse likes the racetrack, that’s all I’m asking for. We’ll take on the competition. I just want him on a surface he’s OK with. That was more of a concern for us than not having faced the heavy heads.”

Thanks

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MarkyD

Found my answer:

As far going into the Derby without having run against a top Derby horse, Jones said, “We may as well just test them right there in the Derby. Even though he was beaten at Oaklawn and didn’t like the racetrack, he still came out of the race with the best Ragozin number of any horse in the race by far. To be honest, I don’t want to sound overconfident, because I’m not. But if this horse likes the racetrack, that’s all I’m asking for. We’ll take on the competition. I just want him on a surface he’s OK with. That was more of a concern for us than not having faced the heavy heads.”

Thanks

modern trainerspeak. In laymans terms "We really just want to make it into the race and if we dont win we are going to tell you that the track changed and the trackman is to blame"

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

modern trainerspeak. In laymans terms "We really just want to make it into the race and if we dont win we are going to tell you that the track changed and the trackman is to blame"

Wow, I had just gone to Babelfish and this is what it said

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

modern trainerspeak. In laymans terms "We really just want to make it into the race and if we dont win we are going to tell you that the track changed and the trackman is to blame"

Well isn't that exactly what happened at Oaklawn? He was I think working bullets, no word of any problems, and then after the off race it became that the track was the issue. You better believe if he does anything other than win the derby there will be a laundry list of excuses. The lower his finish the longer the list.

[Cannon Shell]

It is bad when you start making excuses a month before the race

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Well isn't that exactly what happened at Oaklawn? He was I think working bullets, no word of any problems, and then after the off race it became that the track was the issue. You better believe if he does anything other than win the derby there will be a laundry list of excuses. The lower his finish the longer the list.

I really hope he finished like 6th so I can hear how he hated the track

[Danzig]

yeah, it's crap...he worked well several times at oaklawn, and i think three different times in that article today alone how 'he didn't like the track'...such bs. one of the things they said when they skipped the risen star was that they were happy to stay at oaklawn instead. he loses, so suddenly he doesn't like the track? please!

i don't like the waffling by this group-i like the horse, but his people are getting on my nerves.

they always need an excuse-it's crazy. well, maybe he'll make sure they don't need to find one....