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whodey17 04-12-2007 11:25 AM

Hard Spun
 
Worked very well this morning at Churchill. He worked 5f in 1:00 1/5 which was he fastest at that distance on the day. His fractions are: :12 2/5, :23 4/5, :35 2/5, :47 3/5, galloping out six furlongs in 1:13 3/5. I was there for his work and I have to be honest and say that the horse look unreal. He really loved the stretch and seemed to relish the surroundings. Now, the track that he worked on today will not be the same track come Derby day as we all know. But HS did look very good.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-12-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
Worked very well this morning at Churchill. He worked 5f in 1:00 1/5 which was he fastest at that distance on the day. His fractions are: :12 2/5, :23 4/5, :35 2/5, :47 3/5, galloping out six furlongs in 1:13 3/5. I was there for his work and I have to be honest and say that the horse look unreal. He really loved the stretch and seemed to relish the surroundings. Now, the track that he worked on today will not be the same track come Derby day as we all know. But HS did look very good.

THATS GOOD NEWS, im liking him more and more every day....

slotdirt 04-12-2007 11:31 AM

Been my Derby horse since last year, but I HATE six week layoffs before a race this big. I'm glad he looked good though.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-12-2007 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Been my Derby horse since last year, but I HATE six week layoffs before a race this big. I'm glad he looked good though.

im starting to like him in my top 3... nobiz... hard spun... street sense.... great hunter....tiago....time squared.... there it is.... THE SUPER SIX

Cannon Shell 04-12-2007 11:57 AM

Byk and I decided that breakfast at Wagoners was a better option than watching the work. But we did make the press conference where Hard Spun personally said he was happy with his work and thought that the surface was nice but was not happy about the cold temperatures.

Sightseek 04-12-2007 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Byk and I decided that breakfast at Wagoners was a better option than watching the work. But we did make the press conference where Hard Spun personally said he was happy with his work and thought that the surface was nice but was not happy about the cold temperatures.

I hope he was polite and thanked you all for coming too.

lemoncrush 04-12-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
im starting to like him in my top 3... nobiz... hard spun... street sense.... great hunger....tiago....time squared.... there it is.... THE SUPER SIX

haha..is the Super Six a new wager on derby day?

Great hunger is a horse I'm not too familair with. Although it is close to lunch time.

And I'm not even going to comment on you adding time squared in with those other 5. No chance he's even in the Derby, but you'll realize that after this Satuday.

Cannon Shell 04-12-2007 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I hope he was polite and thanked you all for coming too.

He was very nice and said he was tired of some guy in a red jacket doing all the talking for him.

Cannon Shell 04-12-2007 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He was very nice and said he was tired of some guy in a red jacket doing all the talking for him.

And Byk tried to line him up for ATRAB for tonight but HS said he was busy this afternoon

whodey17 04-12-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Byk and I decided that breakfast at Wagoners was a better option than watching the work. But we did make the press conference where Hard Spun personally said he was happy with his work and thought that the surface was nice but was not happy about the cold temperatures.

Wish I knew you two were going to be in Louisville. I would have loved to have met up with you two.

Sightseek 04-12-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He was very nice and said he was tired of some guy in a red jacket doing all the talking for him.

:D

SniperSB23 04-12-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He was very nice and said he was tired of some guy in a red jacket doing all the talking for him.

What are the odds that guy in the red jacket will be telling us the horse didn't take to the track on May 5th? I'll say 1/20.

Cannon Shell 04-12-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17
Wish I knew you two were going to be in Louisville. I would have loved to have met up with you two.

Im in Louisville every day and SB will be back in 2 weeks

MarkyD 04-12-2007 12:24 PM

I want to know why he was pulled from the Blue this weekend ?

They seem so worried about the track, but what about SS and GH. If he would get smoked this weekend by them this weekend, then would they really care about surfaces? I just don't understand why not see if your horse can compete witht the big guns. At least most of the other top 10 contenders have faced off against each other at some point over the past 6 months.

whodey17 04-12-2007 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Im in Louisville every day and SB will be back in 2 weeks

Nice--maybe we can hook-up and talk some racing. Or talk something other than horse racing.

easy goer 04-12-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyD
I want to know why he was pulled from the Blue this weekend ?

They seem so worried about the track, but what about SS and GH. If he would get smoked this weekend by them this weekend, then would they really care about surfaces? I just don't understand why not see if your horse can compete witht the big guns. At least most of the other top 10 contenders have faced off against each other at some point over the past 6 months.

If he wins or comes in 2nd, does it really help him? If he wins from the front he is unlikely to duplicate it at 10f. If he loses he doesnt get the lead, then maybe he gets a complex about not being able to get the lead.

I dunno, Im trying to come up with a reason for you and thats the best I can do. It sure doesnt help handicappers any, Id like to see what he can do on the front end of fast fractions..

whodey17 04-12-2007 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyD
I want to know why he was pulled from the Blue this weekend ?

They seem so worried about the track, but what about SS and GH. If he would get smoked this weekend by them this weekend, then would they really care about surfaces? I just don't understand why not see if your horse can compete witht the big guns. At least most of the other top 10 contenders have faced off against each other at some point over the past 6 months.

I think that they connections didnt want to face SS or GH. HS doesnt need the graded earnings as he is in the Derby. I wouldnt run in the Bluegrass. I would take the 6 weeks off.

MarkyD 04-12-2007 03:03 PM

Found my answer:

As far going into the Derby without having run against a top Derby horse, Jones said, “We may as well just test them right there in the Derby. Even though he was beaten at Oaklawn and didn’t like the racetrack, he still came out of the race with the best Ragozin number of any horse in the race by far. To be honest, I don’t want to sound overconfident, because I’m not. But if this horse likes the racetrack, that’s all I’m asking for. We’ll take on the competition. I just want him on a surface he’s OK with. That was more of a concern for us than not having faced the heavy heads.”

Thanks

Cannon Shell 04-12-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyD
Found my answer:

As far going into the Derby without having run against a top Derby horse, Jones said, “We may as well just test them right there in the Derby. Even though he was beaten at Oaklawn and didn’t like the racetrack, he still came out of the race with the best Ragozin number of any horse in the race by far. To be honest, I don’t want to sound overconfident, because I’m not. But if this horse likes the racetrack, that’s all I’m asking for. We’ll take on the competition. I just want him on a surface he’s OK with. That was more of a concern for us than not having faced the heavy heads.”

Thanks

modern trainerspeak. In laymans terms "We really just want to make it into the race and if we dont win we are going to tell you that the track changed and the trackman is to blame"

philcski 04-12-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
haha..is the Super Six a new wager on derby day?
Great hunger is a horse I'm not too familair with. Although it is close to lunch time.

And I'm not even going to comment on you adding time squared in with those other 5. No chance he's even in the Derby, but you'll realize that after this Satuday.

Should be, sure beats playing the lottery. How incredible would that be? There would only be 27,907,200 possible combinations in a 20 horse field. Why not take it at a 10c minimum?


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